I don't need nearly as much extensions for wicket because
it's such a no-brainer to write my own custom components...

I think JSF is a big joke with nobody laughing :)

my 2 %

Cheers
Peter


Am 07.08.2008 um 17:59 schrieb Timm Helbig:

Sorry, not really.

*) JSF doesn't consume less Memory over Wicket. But this is not really an
Argument since Hardware isn't that expensive today.
*) Maybe the availability of Millions of extension Libraries for JSF.
*) EL Tags are quite useful, but IMHO just another way to do the same
thing.

Regards,
Timm

Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 08:44:22 schrieb nlif:
Thanks Timm. This is valuable feedback. Nevertheless - can you point to any
advantage JSF has over Wicket? Anything at all?

Thanks

Timm Helbig wrote:
Hi,

I did one Project with JSF and two with Wicket.

By far Wicket is much easier to handle, (nearly) everything works as
supposed,
which is not true for JSF, especially when it comes to external Libraries
like Trinidad or other UI Extension Libraries.

One other thing which is important for me is the Productivity. And this
is
much higher with Wicket than with JSF.

The Community support is suberb with Wicket, and somewhat difficult when
you
check the JSF Forums, but this depends on the Manufactor of the Library
you
use.

I don't want to slash JSF here, but I find it is miles away from a usable Product. For me it looks more like a prototype of what could be possible. Just check what happened from 1.1 to 1.2, and you see, that even Sun
seemed
to face this.

Regards,
Timm

Am Mittwoch, 6. August 2008 11:13:53 schrieb nlif:
Hi all,

We are in the process of selecting a web-framework, and although I am in
favor of Wicket, I was asked to provide an objective comparison of
Wicket with JSF. I have developed a few small apps in Wicket, but I
admit I am not
very familiar with JSF. Prior to posting here, I googled a bit, and
found a
few forum-threads and blog posts on this topic, but most are from 1-2
years
ago and in framework years, this may be considered obsolete.

Although this is the Wicket forum, I expect there are people here who
also
used (or at least evaluated) JSF at some point, so I'd be happy if folks
here could share their experience. If anyone can point me to useful
links that would be great too.

I really am not trying to provoke a flame war, just to gather
information.

In your opinion, what are Wicket strengths? What are JSF's ? (even if
you're a Wicket fan, surely there's something ;)

I would be interested to hear people thoughts regarding the fact the JSF
is
a standard, while Wicket is not. How important is that to you? In what
ways
do you think this matters (if at all)?

Also, supposedly JSF has a larger selection of 3rd party components
compared to Wicket. Is this true? how often do you find yourself rolling your own components and how hard is it to do so in Wicket (and I mean
non-trivial-good-looking-Ajax-enabled stuff).

Many thanks in advance.

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