Thanks for your work !
I really enjoyed reading the MEAP, looking forward to re-reading the
dead-tree version.

Maarten

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Nick Heudecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All interesting points.  Thanks for clarifying.
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Toto Laricot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Nick Heudecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Why did you move away from Seam?
>>
>>
>> It was a project for one of our clients. They let us pick the technology.
>> We
>> first selected SEAM because we thought it would be easier for the  client
>> to
>> take over the code once the app would switch to maintenance mode (JSF is a
>> standard, wicket is still an obscure framework, yadayadayada...).
>> We developed the first 75%  with SEAM. Everything worked great
>> (functionally
>> speaking), the client was happy, but the code was hard to follow (xml
>> config
>> files, triggers, etc.), the compile/test cycles were very long, the project
>> structure was too complex (we use maven: we needed 3 different modules to
>> produce the final ear file).
>> So, without telling the customer (and without charging them) we ported the
>> project to wicket. Huge win:
>>  - Simpler code
>>  - shorter compile/test cycle (with wicket we're launching the app with
>> embedded jetty during development)
>>  - shorted learning curve: it's easier to bring a developer up to speed on
>> a wicket project that it is on a jboss/seam one.
>>  - amazing support through the form
>>
>>
>> I'm not saying SEAM is a bad framework. It might even be better than
>> Wicket,
>> or better suited for  some environments. But one thing is certain: it's a
>> lot more complex to master.
>>
>>
>>
>

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