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Are there any demo/reference websites that run Hippo CMS or Hippo Portal?

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> Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100
> Von: "Frank van Lankvelt" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: RE: Things I miss in Wicket

> Sure these kinds of things exist.  In Hippo CMS 7, we're nesting panels
> that each have their own instance-specific configuration.  Different
> document types have a corresponding (admittedly quite simple) plugin
> configuration that can be edited within the cms.  The cms itself is
> mostly a (more involved) configuration of such loosely-coupled generic
> panels.
> 
> This approach is actually opposite to Wickets philosophy (only Java +
> HTML).  But the great thing about combining opposites is that there is a
> sliding scale for doing things.  You can start out using the generic
> building blocks, giving you limited flexibility in terms of how these
> panels can interact, but at least they can be easily configured using a
> web interface.  Then, as your needs transcend the possibilities of this
> simplistic solution, you can write your own plugins with the full power
> of Wicket at your disposal.
> 
> Cheers, Frank
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tobias Marx [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > Sent: 16 January 2009 14:10
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Things I miss in Wicket
> > 
> > Brix only works the way it works because it does not need a 
> > database......with a flexible achitecture and a database this 
> > would not be possible without too many limitations either.
> > 
> > The ultimate goal would be a web-application builder...or at 
> > least a highly configurable website (whatever kind of) that 
> > only needs to be written once and can be customized easily 
> > without "changing" the code.
> > 
> > So far this does not exist....the thing that comes closed is 
> > Typo3, Drupal or something like that...or the Dolphin 
> > community builder - but this is all at a very early stage and 
> > so far starting from scratch is often the better option in 
> > the long-term.
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:59:11 -0500
> > > Von: Richard Allen <[email protected]>
> > > An: [email protected]
> > > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket
> > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like writing normal 
> > > > Java applications - although rich clients applications are being 
> > > > replaced
> > > with
> > > > web-based solutions and there is a fundamental difference between 
> > > > web-applications and normal java applications. If you have a java 
> > > > application as a product, it is normal to employ software 
> > developers
> > > that
> > > > work on bug fixes and new features all the time - they constantly
> > > develop
> > > > and it is expensive....everything has to be done by a software
> > > developer.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Being more like a "normal" Java application (whatever that is :) is 
> > > precisely why some of us like Wicket.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is 
> > > > never touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new 
> > > > features necessary.... but in this time there could be 
> > several small 
> > > > changes or complete re-designs...and in that time this 
> > should be a 
> > > > pure matter of HTMLing without the need of touching the 
> > Java code. 
> > > > If a new input field
> > > is
> > > > added or some new strings.....or whatever....or maybe a new Flash
> > > component
> > > > etc....this should still work without changing the -war file that
> > > carries
> > > > the Java code...only changes in the templates or the 
> > database should 
> > > > be made.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This sounds quite unrealistic to me for most applications. 
> > But I think 
> > > a CMS (such as Brix: http://code.google.com/p/brix-cms/) 
> > comes close 
> > > to what you are asking for if I understand what you are 
> > trying to get 
> > > at.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wicket does does not really allow this. Or assume you have a 
> > > > web-application you want to sell - and don't want the customer to 
> > > > know Java....they would be really restricted in the 
> > changes that are
> > > possible.
> > > >  Another advantage of Wicket is that it creates a session 
> > for every
> > > visitor
> > > > - no matter whether it is a crawler/search engine that 
> > does not need 
> > > > a session or a logged in user....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Again, a CMS.
> > > 
> > > -Richard
> > 
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