> Well really OFF-TOPIC:
>
> I've deal sometime with SWING layout, and it's difficult.

I would recommend using Instantiations' WindowBuilder
http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilder/

It has a lot of featues that automate painting Swing layouts.
Snap-to-position, align, etc. with your scalable controls as well.
Really boosts productivity.

Furthermore, perhaps the Awt Robot feature could be used for TDD with Swing:
* http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2007/jw-07-fest.html

**
Martin

>
> My last experience (a couple of years ago) was with a new layout, only
> available on JAVA 6 (it can be added to java 5),
> of which I can't remember the name., GroupLayout or something similar.
>
> At that time the only IDE that can deal with it was NetBeans 6 or more, it
> was a really
> nice way of constructing layouts (forget to do it without and ide really
> difficult), and it
> resulted in a nice working experience.
>
> hope it can helps
> tonio
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> I would like to build a nice-looking java desktop application.  I hope
>> that isn't an oxymoron  :).  I have built some desktop apps before - a
>> lot of command line utilities in various languages, and some GUI apps
>> (perl, java, python, php, even vb (yikes!), c# etc...).
>>
>> The question is - what framework do you use for your UI components and
>> layout on a desktop app?  I would like to use Java because I'll be
>> most efficient with it and it will work for me on linux machines and
>> others on Windoze, etc..  But when I've built Swing apps in the past,
>> I have hated having to layout everything in the code and I can never
>> make anything aesthetically pleasing.  So....
>>
>> 1 - do you have any recommendations on a good framework for nice
>> looking desktop apps?
>> 2 - any other recommendations for desktop apps in general?
>> 3 - It should be a lightweight, easy install - and I would prefer to
>> stay away from using the Eclipse framework for building the app (I use
>> the IDE but it doesn't need to be something that heavy for the GUI)
>> 4 - I have even thought about building an app that opens a swing
>> window that contains an embedded browser and jetty servlet running the
>> app so that I can use Wicket.  Has anyone thought of or done this
>> before?
>>
>> Basically, it's a CRUD application, but containing personal data that
>> the user should not store on someone else's server.  I would use an
>> embedded database that stores the data with encryption.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
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