We shouldn't have to do this kind of research to know what's going on.
 That's the whole point.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Martijn
Dashorst<martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WTF?
>
> Read the commit messages and then tell me that the 1.4.0 release is
> not an exact copy of sandbox/ivaynberg/wicket-1.4.0 ?
>
> Martijn
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, James
> Carman<jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Well, think about it this way.  In the original message in this
>> thread, Thomas Singer went looking for the 1.4.0 release stuff at the
>> URL:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/tags/wicket-1.4.0
>>
>> and it wasn't there.  Why did he go there?  Hmmmmmm.  Maybe because
>> that's how everyone else does it?  Why would Wicket choose to do it
>> differently than everyone else?  It just doesn't make any sense to me.
>>
>> Also, in the vote thread, Igor proposed to release 1.4.0 from the
>> following SVN URL:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/sandbox/ivaynberg/wicket-1.4.0
>>
>> However, you're saying that it was actually released from:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/releases/wicket-1.4.0
>>
>> So, the released software wasn't built from the URL the community
>> voted on.  You can't just move things around and release it.  You need
>> to release from the SVN URL in the vote thread, because that's what's
>> being voted upon.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Martijn
>> Dashorst<martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> tags/foo is as mutable as releases/foo
>>>
>>> If a release needs to be cut, we can just do:
>>>
>>> svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/releases/wicket-1.4.0
>>> ./release.sh
>>>
>>> there are no changes to the release after it has been created. A
>>> social convention, just as tagging it.
>>>
>>> And this is the last thing I'll say about it.
>>>
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:10 AM, James
>>> Carman<jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Martijn
>>>> Dashorst<martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We create a branch of off trunk for future maintenance of wicket 1.4,
>>>>> not from a release branch.
>>>>>
>>>>> wicket/branches/wicket-1.3.x  -> created from wicket/trunk when we
>>>>> moved 1.3 to maintenance mode
>>>>> wicket/branches/wicket-1.4.x -> will be created from wicket/trunk when
>>>>> we move 1.4 to mainenance mode
>>>>>
>>>>> wicket/releases/wicket-1.4.1 -> will be created from wicket/trunk if
>>>>> we haven't created branches/wicket-1.4.x yet, or else from
>>>>> branches/wicket-1.4.x
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but this has been the way we have done things since the dawn of
>>>>> the project. Just because you think it is not correct, doesn't
>>>>> invalidate how *we* do things.
>>>>
>>>> Correct.  Projects do have some leeway, but it is important to be able
>>>> to re-create the release as it was.  With your strategy, you have no
>>>> idea (without some SVN version magic) how to re-create it if you're
>>>> checking code into the SVN URL that is used to create the release.
>>>> The SCM URL in your released pom points to:
>>>>
>>>> scm:svn:http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/releases/wicket-1.4.0
>>>>
>>>> Which is MUTABLE with your strategy!  You don't see a problem with
>>>> that?!?!?!  The SCM URL for releases should point to a tag (which
>>>> nobody is supposed to modify), not a branch.
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