Have you thought about getting more involved with Brix?  

One of the great things about it is it isn't too centered on any one area.  It 
would be easy for you to help with a suite of plugins for doing the kind of 
stuff that you're talking about.  There are people on the Brix list that are 
talking about shopping carts right now, for instance.  Brix was originally 
designed for a company doing this kind of thing.  It's all possible, but 
there's a lot of fragmented development and not a lot of investment going back 
in.

Regarding the core, a lot of the features in core are going to be driven by 
needs in the plugins.  Hence, I would challenge you to create needs in the core 
by demonstrating those needs in the plugins.

Sometimes it's challenging on a small project to get the feedback that helps 
make development fun.  On the other hand, if the development isn't there, the 
community never grows to provide the feedback.

If you are worried about people having access to your assets, I'm sure you 
could find others that are working on things with the same feelings and you 
could start off privately.

Let's build some stuff!

Brian

On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Arjun Dhar wrote:

> 
> Summary:: 
> This conversation is about Java in the CMS space, comparison to PHP and is
> there a future to reduce turn around time with Java. Are we as a community
> too elitist to be stuck on masturbating on frameworks rather than solutions
> that affect direct outcome? ..and then technically I've centered this around
> Brix & wicket.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I've been exploring lot of Java CMS solutions and also frameworks. BRIX,
> Alfresco I feel are good for different reasons.
> 
> From a Web framework point of view, I feel Wicket & I guess Sling  cut the
> mark pretty well (not much experience yet with Sling).
> 
> However, with Java Community the solutions (beyond framework) finish is not
> comparable to the likes of PHP giants like Drupal, Wordpress etc. I operate
> in the small business market a lot , and this really hurts. I really feel
> the Java.
> 
> With earlier version of Java it would get tedious and too boilerplate to
> produce anything quickly fast. But with the advent of scripting languages
> galore, be it Server JavaScript, Groovy, Scala ... and so many wonderful
> frameworks we have not taken it to the next level to producing quality CMS.
> 
> Brix apparently will not be evolved further. which is fine; for its intent
> it does a good job but what about taking this to the next level. Also,
> problem with most CMS is they are content centric (ok hence they are called
> CMS) may seem dumb at a glance. 
> ..but I dont want my business model to go into a JCR repository. Perhaps the
> intent of the site is to reflect the actual product & business model in a
> neat way with WebDav. Lets call it PMS (hah) for lack of a better
> abbreviation. Also the ability to customize the admin module to give a
> Product centric view instead of Content centric view. This allows for
> greater analytic s and also then using java as an integration platform to
> integrate the business model with infinite things at the back end with
> pluggable extensions.
> 
> I liked BRIX for many reasons. Am wondering if people are thinking about
> what I mentioned above ..also if we can take Brix further (not core) but by
> adding extensions and delivering a quality complete solution that could
> rival something like Drupal in the near future ...or maybe eventually!
> 
> 
> ..sorry i don't have my own Blog. You see WordPress is in PHP *wink hehe.
> Get the point?! :)
> 
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