Thanks for the detailed answer Martin!

You are right in my description I missed one part, for generating the
HTML my plan was to use Apache Velocity. The REST interface will only
generate data to fill that HTML.

I've created a MockUp of the architecture proposal that should cover it all:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/DHTML+Proposal

Wicket seems to be more likely to be a classic
web-application-framework. From my point of view we are more looking
for a UI framework.

Thanks!
Sebastian

2012/8/26 Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> You didn't say what your web service response's type is.
> By referring to jQuery's #load() method it seems like your WS returns
> ready to render HTML, but later you say that you will create the
> content with pure JavaScript (JQuery) which makes me think that the
> returned response is plain data (JSON, XML, ...) which you will use to
> generate the HTML.
>
> Wicket is (mostly) server side framework, i.e. it generates the HTML
> at the server and sends it to the browser for rendering. For single
> page applications (SPA) you start with rendering a whole Page and then
> by using Wicket Ajax components just need to update your components'
> models (pure Java code executed at the server) and Wicket will
> generate the HTML and send it to the browser to update the part(s) of
> the page. Wicket 6.0 also provides integrations with Atmosphere
> framework and Native WebSocket so you can use newer (HTML5)
> technologies for updating the view at the client side. Again you'll
> have to write mostly Java code to implement this.
> The benefit is that you can test all this very easily with
> unit/functional tests written in Java.
>
> If you want to use JavaScript to render the returned plain data from
> your web service then there is no need to include Wicket in the
> technology stack. But in this case you will need to use some
> JavaScript testing library. The JS testing libs became better last
> year but still not that good as Java ones.
>
> In both cases using Selenium for more complicated test scenaria will be 
> needed.
>
> HTH
> martin-g
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:24 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we are developers from the Apache project "Apache OpenMeetings", we
>> provide a Web-Conferencing application that is currently Flash-based
>> on the client side.
>> We already have a server side stack with Spring + openJPA + Axis2 that
>> provides us with a SOAP/REST API and ORM.
>>
>> We are currently discussing an HTML5 alternative for our Flash based
>> client and have to decide some basic framework questions.
>> Apache Wicket is one option.
>>
>> Our HTML client is likely to be a single HTML page that loads content
>> / components dynamically into the website.
>> My idea was first to use http://api.jquery.com/load/ to load
>> components dynamically, however maybe Wicket has a similar mechanism?
>> It seems like the combination of jQuery + Wicket is the most widespreaded.
>> But if we create our content with pure jQuery, why adding Wicket to it?
>> I was told that Wicket's strength is to provide a Non-JavaScript
>> version of the website if JavaScript is not available. However as our
>> basic features will be collaboration tools that really make no sense
>> without JavaScript, we don't need a Non-JavaScript version.
>> And we have already a REST interface, we don't need to duplicate one
>> with Wicket that provides yet another API.
>>
>> Maybe there are other arguments positive for using Wicket that I have 
>> overseen?
>>
>> Thanks for sharing!
>> Sebastian
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