I agree with you. The one thing i would say:if you want to have a nice presentation of vaadin,it comes out of the box,because thats a vaadin feature:nice presentation. No other framework has it such easy:)
So lets start a competition... Michael:) manuelbarzi <manuelba...@gmail.com> schrieb: >> I think, you should not compare wicket with vaadin. Wicket is not the >right >> answer for every project. Wicket does not compete with vaadin, >because >> wicket is a different hammer. The rise of "javascript apps" could >change the >> future of web development, but for such a project you should not use >wicket >> either. IMHO wicket is the better answer than struts, grails (if you >have a >> long term maintenance cycle), jsf... >> >> I think there are many wicket projects out there, but wicket is not >the so >> called cool stuff like grails, spring roo and so on... nothing a >developer >> likes to play with (which is IMHO a good thing). I think, this could >be >> changed with wicket 6 (jquery build-in)... but it is a long way. > >your loosing the focus pretended to be justify before: "marketing", >not tech. and many people "first see", later "think" :) > >nobody was comparing Wicket with Vaadin, neither technically and >neither in any other similar aspects. but you seem to defend so it in >your mail. Vaadin is just mentioned as a good example (like it or not) >that gains a lot of adepts just because of its "cool marketing >presentation" at its website (in terms of style, look & feel, and >"special effects"). that's all. so could be any other tech that >applies similar commercial strategies. > >just to give you an example: from many persons i know, who have >decision power in projects, and they have no idea about wicket, they >just say: "does wicket really have serious projects? is it actually >used? cause i see that GWT or Vaadin seem much more "worked", >professional, and nice". and you cannot pretend them to perfeclty >understand the differences between techs because they have no enough >technical skills to do so. sad (not really, is a nice feedback to >learn from) but true. > >Wicket is probably the best most of us have ever enjoyed before. but >let's be realistic, there's the nice paradox of "non competitive >presentation of this presentation framework" yet, to be sold to "not >enough tech skilled" people, who are decision makers. they just want >to see "nice cinema". then, why not adding that to Wicket site, and be >more "marketineers" too? > >i think we may all agree that in general, open-source projects in >Apache have a big lack of "cool presentation and marketing". and >marketing it is not a concept that goes against open-source, of >course. there are many nice open-source projects that do sell >them-selves well in their sites. > >one nice idea could be: why not opening a competition to create a more >"marketineer" presentation of Wicket tech? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
