On 01/04/2011 10:28 PM, Arnaud bourree wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 2011/1/4 Vincent Massol<[email protected]>:
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:59 PM, sorinello wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Team.
>>>
>>> I have 2 proposals to make :
>>>
>>> 1. Rationale: "XWiki competitors" is a little bit too aggressive. We should
>>> not use so harsh words like competitor, rivals, etc. So I am proposing to
>>> replace "XWiki competitors" with:
>>>       1.1. "Other alternatives to XWiki"
>>>       1.2. "Alternatives to XWiki"
>>>       1.3. "Similar products to XWiki"
>>>       1.4. "Similar solutions to XWiki"

This is not about a feature comparison where we select key features to 
prove that XWiki is the best compared to others. So I agree that 
"competitors" might not be the best word here.

This is more like a list of other products that users take into 
consideration "instead of" or "along with" XWiki, so other products that 
overlap some of the usage scenarios of XWiki.

The end result (as far as I understand from Gregory's initial message) 
is not to be able to compare XWiki with "the competition", but to 
extract a list of features that the community values in other products, 
and which they would like to see in XWiki.

For example, just today I've seen mentioned that "Wordpress has many 
more skins available". Thus, the product in this case is WP, and the 
desired feature is a broad collection of skins/themes that the users can 
choose for their wiki.

>> I'm ok with any (even Competitor is ok with me).
>>
>> On a side note, it's always difficult to compare 2 products since there are 
>> multiple angles and it's hard to have people from both products agree on the 
>> comparison. I'm not sure where this will lead...

We don't want a feature matrix, we want a "Feature F present in Product 
P that's missing in XWiki" list. And to get there, we're currently 
gathering the list of products to look at.

>>> 2. If a user is not happy with XWiki and wants to switch to another
>>> alternative from the page, we should allow that user to "manifest" it's
>>> unhappiness via some sort of form. Maybe we can link the XWiki.org Survey to
>>> this page, so at least we hopefully get some feedback from the leaving user.

No, we don't want that now.

>> Yes but this shouldn't be linked to this page. We should have such a form 
>> accessible probably from the download page. The feedback result should 
>> probably be sent to the list (devs list?).
>
> Why not a features matrice like we can found at 7zip, WinRAR, WinZip websites
> For example:
>                                                    xwiki    sharepoint
> Access from Office application     V            V
> Google Calandar integration        V            X
> Infopath integration                      X            V
>

That would be nice, but it's not the subject of this thread.

>
>>
>> This is becoming a bit off topic for this thread.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>>
>>> WDYT ?


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