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From: "Nat Hager III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 2001February06 17:24
Subject: [USMA:10876] Utah DOT


> Document from Utah DOT from last summer...
>
> Nat
>
> http://www.dot.state.ut.us/esd/otheresdpages/cecu/08%2D23%2D00.htm
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>
> UDOT/CECU (Consultant Engineers Council of Utah) LIAISON COMMITTEE MEETING
> MINUTES for August 23, 2000
> Place: UDOT 4th Floor Conference Room
> Date: August 23, 2000
> Time: 9:00AM
> Prepared By: Lee Arnold
>
> <snip>
>
> Item 7
>
> Tom also led discussion on the Local Government cooperative agreements
where
> the local agencies prefer using English Units. UDOT no longer supports
> anything but metric and that means the agencies and their consultants are
> responsible for all costs associated with making the conversion of specs,
> standard drawings, V-drawings, design standards, etc. They are also
> responsible for all mistakes, omissions and incorrect standards in the bid
> package. Tom handed out an insert to be included in cooperative agreements
> and asked for feedback before the end of the month.
>
> Randy asked, "Should we be going back to English Units?" This generated a
> lot of discussion. Tom said of the 40 DOT's that converted to metric, only
> 17 remain and half of those will go back to English soon. There is a high
> degree of risk where conversion of standards is required or when double
> dimensioning is required when dealing with the likes of Union Pacific
> Railroad. Randy stated that a lot of state money was spent in meeting the
> Federal mandate to convert to metric and it would cost a lot to go back.
The
> state would not have any interest in going back unless the Feds would
agree
> that it would be for the long term. They definitely would not want to go
> back to English if there was any chance the Feds come back in two years
and
> mandate metric again. Randy pointed out its a lot cheaper for the local
> agencies to do those designs using metric since the support is there.
>

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