2001-04-08
I'm sure these group's interest in International issues involves "others"
doing things our way, not "we" doing it theirs. Many of the leaders and
members of these groups are mainstream Americans ignorant in SI and will not
promote a "system" they don't understand. Neither will they bring it up.
They feel that if we don't speak it, others won't either and we can try
through back door approaches to get them to accept our methods, even if we
have no intention of accepting theirs.
John
Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige, der irrt�mlich glaubt
frei zu sein.
There are none more hopelessly enslaved then those who falsely believe they
are free!
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric Association"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 2001-04-08 20:46
Subject: Re: [USMA:11990] Fwd: my realistic thoughts on metrication
> Once again, why wouldn't a group like Rotary want to
> tackle U.S. metrication as part of its effort to
> foster better international relations? Why wouldn't
> the United Nations Association of the U.S. be
> similarly motivated? Why not Kiwanis? Why not Jaycees?
> Why not some of the bigger mainstream Christian
> denominations? There are many many civic and
> leadership and religious groups who talk good talk
> about being for better international relations. And
> many of them find it difficult to find any specific
> project to champion as part of the effort. Why can't
> we enlist some groups like this to jump in now and
> help drive the whole thing to a fast win?
>
> Andy Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/metricAmerica
> --- kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2001-04-08
> >
> > Isn't there an old saying that it is the darkest
> > before the dawn? Who
> > knows, maybe this is our darkest hour?
> >
> > The world is changing. The US economy is sliding
> > downward. The US has
> > managed to piss off the Chinese. President Bush is
> > showing his arrogance,
> > which is angering many people world-wide. Things
> > aren't as rosy as they
> > were a few years ago.
> >
> > Yet, at the same time, the EU is coming into its
> > own. Its economy is doing
> > well. The Euro will be a real currency this time
> > next year. The EU will
> > expand eastward in the next few years. The EU is
> > gaining strength.
> > Johannes Rau, received a warm reception after his
> > speech to the Strassburg
> > Parliament on greater European unity in the form of
> > a federation.
> >
> > The EU did the right thing by backing off for ten
> > years on the labelling
> > issue. They will be in a stronger position to tell
> > the US off if the US
> > doesn't comply in 2009. If the EU can and does
> > stand up to the US and the
> > world follows the EU lead, you can rest assured the
> > US will be metric
> > sooner than you think.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige,
> > der irrt�mlich glaubt
> > frei zu sein.
> >
> > There are none more hopelessly enslaved then those
> > who falsely believe they
> > re free!
> >
> > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, 2001-04-01 21:38
> > Subject: [USMA:11990] Fwd: my realistic thoughts on
> > metrication
> >
> >
> > > I have great respect for Paul Trusten (father of
> > > WOMBAT) who has pushed metrication for a long
> > time. I
> > > don't think I have the knowledge or credentials or
> > > background or experience to challenge Paul. But I
> > sure
> > > as hell hope that Paul is wrong as hell in his
> > gloomy
> > > summary of the prospects for expeditious
> > metrication.
> > >
> > > I am going to fret over his comments a bit and
> > then
> > > I'll be back with something more to say.
> > >
> > > I hope that others will stew over his comments a
> > bit
> > > and give us a bit more analysis.
> > >
> > > What are our goals?
> > > In the best case, what do we hope to achieve?
> > > In the worst case, when and what do we hope to do?
> > >
> > > What are the odds?
> > > What do you think is likely?
> > >
> > > Sincerely committed to metrication NOW,
> > > Andy Johnson
> > > --- Paul Trusten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:13:14 -0500
> > > > From: Paul Trusten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Organization: @Home Network
> > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: [USMA:11988] my realistic thoughts on
> > > > metrication
> > > >
> > > > (In reply to that question offered from our
> > Yahoo
> > > > group)
> > > >
> > > > Now, all of you know that I am pro-metric. I've
> > > > participated on this
> > > > mailing list for almost four years, and have
> > been
> > > > involved with the
> > > > metrication issue since before the passage of
> > the
> > > > 1975 MCA. Heck, I even
> > > > coined the term WOMBAT. But, I fear that,
> > ceteris
> > > > paribus, the prospects
> > > > for quick US metrication have grown dim with the
> > > > passage of time.
> > > >
> > > > In the US, there has been increased anti-metric
> > > > zealotry, primarily
> > > > among those who see US metrication as
> > contributing
> > > > to the arrival of the
> > > > anti-Christ ("the mark", no money passing
> > without it
> > > > being recorded, the
> > > > New World Order, etc.). Softer versions of this
> > > > zealotry imply that the
> > > > US is giving in to world domination by adopting
> > SI,
> > > > and this doctrine
> > > > tends to seep into the consciousness of the
> > average
> > > > American. But also,
> > > > my own view of US metrication is that it will
> > excite
> > > > what I (and author
> > > > Alvin Toffler) refer to as "Future Shock", a
> > process
> > > > in which there are
> > > > too many changes in our daily lives with which
> > we
> > > > are uncomfortable (one
> > > > bellweather for metrication is my Dad, who says,
> > "I
> > > > couldn't be
> > > > bothered".) My number one ingredient for US
> > > > metrication has been that it
> > > > must be inspiring, and I see nothing among
> > > > present-day US society to
> > > > inspire this change.
> > > >
> > > > There is only one thing that will do it
> > quickly---an
> > > > economic disaster.
> > > > If this economic disaster includes problems with
> > US
> > > > global competition,
> > > > then metrication will become a top national
> > > > priority. It will be then
> > > > that the participants in this listserv can serve
> > as
> > > > the first US Metric
> > > > Board, and breathlessly share its expertise with
> > a
> > > > nervous government
> > > > and nervous CEOs. Gosh darn it, why the US
> > > > government and the industrial
> > > > captains don't see SI as a hedge against global
> > > > trouble NOW, baffles me.
> > > > I suppose T. Jefferson applies here: "Mankind
> > are
> > > > more disposed to
> > > > suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right
> > > > themselves by
> > > > abolishing the forms to which they are
> > accustomed."
> > > > (US Declaration of
> > > > Independence [from Britain], July 2, 1776).
> > > >
> > > > In a reasonably good economy,I do not see
> > > > metrication happening "now",
> > > > or "soon". By osmosis, it might happen in about
> > 50
> > > > years, one mOsml at a
> > > > time. But, if we suddenly encounter a
> > Rooseveltian
> > > > depression, then,
> > > > IMHO,US metrication will become a sacrament.
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
> > > > 3609 Caldera Boulevard, Apt. 122
> > > > Midland TX 79707-2872 USA
> > > > (915)-694-6208
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > >
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