I like being ecumenical. Sure.
But Elwell ought not to pretend he is for metric when
he is against metric.
This group ought not to pretend to be for metric when
it is against metric.
You ought not to pretend to be for metric when you are
against metric.
To be for "voluntary metrication" is like being for
"voluntary abolition of slavery." Anyone who supported
abolition was for government action.
There is no metrication without government action.
Andy and I have been trying to find some national
group, some national civic or church or business or
fraternal group, to take on a grand campaign to lobby
Congress for the establishment of metric as the one
and only system of measurement.
But I guess you would not support us in this effort?
Because you would prefer to be ecumenical? You would
prefer to team up with folks who say they are metric
even if they are working against federal legislation?
I want to find a group--and Andy apparently also hopes
to find a group--like the usma, but where there is no
time wasted on confused people like Elwell.
We need a group where 100% involved are quite sure
that they support and advocate Congressional action to
mandate metric as the one and only system in the U.S.
If there were in place such a group, then such a group
could then serve as monitors or advisors if ever Andy
recruits this national group he dreams about
recruiting.
I haven't communicated with Andy since Friday, but he
continues, as he has done for a long time, in his
effort to recruit either the Florida Jaycees or
perhaps the national Jaycees or the Kiwanis or the
Civitan to take on the project.
He had thought it was simple. Get a group like the
Jaycees to make it the national project for the year
and then seek to blend the efforts of the usma with
this not-yet-recruited civic group for a year or so.
If we had eggs, we could have ham and eggs, if we had
ham. That is about where we stand. If only the usma
knew what the hell its own goals were, then we could
recruit others to help us.
--- "James R. Frysinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have a non-sequitur here, Eddie. Metrication of
> the U.S. is a goal.
> A government mandate (via legislation or otherwise)
> is one means of
> obtaining that goal. It does not follow that this is
> the only means by
> which to obtain that goal.
>
> Personally, I'm in favor of government mandated
> metrication because I
> think the transition would be quicker and,
> hopefully, better organized.
> This would, I believe, benefit and help protect
> smaller businesses who
> are liable to suffer more from a protracted process.
>
> However, I recognize that Jim Elwell has well
> thought out reasons for
> his opinions and I respect that. Since his goal is
> the same as mine and
> since voluntary metrication and directed metrication
> are not in
> conflict, there is plenty of room on this list for
> both of us. I
> especially admire Jim for the excellent job he has
> done in metricating
> his company, teaching many people to become
> metrically proficient (to
> the point that many of them became Certified
> Metrication Specialists),
> and for his generosity in donating metric rulers to
> classrooms and
> teachers, myself included. Jim has put his money
> where his mouth is and
> has posted some excellent comments here as well.
>
> Alarm bells go off in my head when I hear people
> demand 100 % agreement
> with their views and they refuse to tolerate
> divergence of
> opinion--especially when that results in their rude
> treatment of those
> holding different views. Jim Elwell has my respect
> for remaining a
> gentleman while being castigated so vilely on this
> list. Likewise, Bill
> Potts, who had the courage to speak up in support of
> Jim's right to
> express his views here and who received nothing but
> guff in return.
> Bill, too, has contributed much to the cause with
> his SI Navigator web
> site and his excellent postings here.
>
> Let's try to be more ecumnical and tolerant on this
> list. That is what
> we Americans would like to think we stand for.
>
> Jim Frysinger
>
> eddie lechat wrote:
> >
> > Jim, I don't want this to be some personal fight,
> but,
> > seriously, I do not think it is consistent to
> claim to
> > be for metric and to also claim not to be in favor
> of
> > using the government to force metric.
> ....
> --
> Metric Methods(SM) "Don't be late to
> metricate!"
> James R. Frysinger, CAMS
> http://www.metricmethods.com/
> 10 Captiva Row e-mail:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Charleston, SC 29407 phone/FAX:
843.225.6789
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