It is the same difference in English between 'square units' and 'units
square'.  An area kan measure 20 km2 (20 vierkante kilometer) or it can
measure 20 km square (20 km in het vierkant). And the latter is 20 by 20 km!

Han

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wizard of OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:00 PM
Subject: [USMA:16627] RE: Metric in the news


> can you elaborate the difference?
>
>
> >From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [USMA:16622] RE: Metric in the news
> >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:18:13 +0100
> >
> >In the Netherlands we also differentiate between 'vierkante kilometer'
> >(square kilometer) and 'kilometer in het vierkant', (kilometer square),
> >
> >Han
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:18 AM
> >Subject: [USMA:16608] RE: Metric in the news
> >
> >
> > > Wizard:
> > >
> > > For authoritative confirmation that Kilometerquadrat means kilometer
> >square
> > > (i.e., a square, 1 kilometer by 1 kilometer) and not square kilometer
> >(i.e.,
> > > an area of one million square meters [ein Million Quadratmeter],
> >regardless
> > > of shape), take a look at the following reference:
> > > http://193.159.218.116/OE/tips.htm.
> > >
> > > To quote from the initial text:
> > >
> > > Tips zur Benutzung
> > > der Bodenrichtwertkarte des Kreises Olpe
> > >   Der innerhalb der blauen Linien dargestellte Ausschnitt aus der
> > > Bodenrichtwertkarte entspricht in der Regel einem Quadrat mit einer
> > > Seitenl�nge von einem Kilometer, ein sog. Kilometerquadrat
> > >
> > > Translation of the last eleven words (for the non-German speakers):
"...
> >a
> > > square with a side of length one kilometer, a so-called kilometer
> >square."
> > > (sog. is the standard abbreviation of sogennant, meaning so-called.)
> > >
> > > Bill Potts, CMS
> > > Roseville, CA
> > > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of Bill Potts
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 15:54
> > > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > > Subject: [USMA:16607] RE: Metric in the news
> > >
> > >
> > > I already got that from my own library. My authority is the H.
Wernicke
> > > Lexikon der Elektronic Nachrichten- und Elektrotechnik, published by
> >Rohde
> > > und Schwarz (which I acquired, in D�sseldorf, about 10 years ago).
> > >
> > > Also, if you do a Google search with Quadratkilometer as the search
> > > argument, you'll find many contemporary references. Here's just one:
> > > http://www.bghn.de/region/bevoelkerung.cfm.
> > >
> > > Bill Potts, CMS
> > > Roseville, CA
> > > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wizard of OS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 15:18
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [USMA:16601] RE: Metric in the news
> > >
> > >
> > > you are talking nonsense!
> > >
> > > I can get the units dic from the library and prove it!
> > >
> > > dont mess with me! :D
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: [USMA:16601] RE: Metric in the news
> > > >Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:54:28 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Nonsense. The German for square kilometer is Quadratkilometer.
> > > >
> > > >"n Kilometer Quadrat" has the same meaning as the English
"n-kilometer
> > > >square." The "square" part of the expression is neither a unit of
> >measure
> > > >nor a component of a unit of measure. It is simply descriptive. The
> >unit
> > > >"kilometer" is used in defining the length of a side of that square.
> >Thus,
> > > >a
> > > >four kilometer square (or vier Kilometer Quadrat) has an area of 16
> >square
> > > >kilometers (16 Quadratkilometer).
> > > >
> > > >Note that, absent a value (stated or implied), both kilometer square
> >and
> > > >Kilometer Quadrat are meaningless (neither being a unit).
> > > >
> > > >Bill Potts, CMS
> > > >Roseville, CA
> > > >http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > >Behalf Of Wizard of OS
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 06:15
> > > >To: U.S. Metric Association
> > > >Subject: [USMA:16592] RE: Metric in the news
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >bill I guess there is a misunderstanding
> > > >
> > > >i.e. in german the therm for km� is Kilometerquadrat, which is valid
> >for
> > > >more than 20 years now.
> > > >
> > > >a four kilometer square is 4 km� I presume
> > > >
> > > >deriving from the that the therm square kilometer is wrong at all, I
> >have
> > > >never seen �km!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: [USMA:16590] RE: Metric in the news
> > > > >Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:49:20 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > >Interestingly, on CNN, Christiane Amanpour was describing the area
> >being
> > > > >bombed as a four kilometer square. The news readers were referring
to
> >the
> > > > >same area as one and a half square miles -- an unnecessary and
> >completely
> > > > >incorrect conversion.
> > > > >
> > > > >A four kilometer square is 16 square kilometers, or approximately 6
> > > >square
> > > > >miles.
> > > > >
> > > > >Bill Potts, CMS
> > > > >Roseville, CA
> > > > >http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > > >Behalf Of kilopascal
> > > > >Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 15:55
> > > > >To: U.S. Metric Association
> > > > >Subject: [USMA:16585] Metric in the news
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >2001-12-10
> > > > >
> > > > >This Morning on the NBC today show, a soldier from the Afghan
> >conflict
> > > >was
> > > > >interviewed.  He was one of the soldiers injured in the friendly
fire
> > > > >attack
> > > > >that killed 3 of his comrades.
> > > > >
> > > > >Twice he gave distances and both times they were in kilometres
> > > > >(kill-lom-eters).  Not once did he say an FFU term.  Also, on the
> >evening
> > > > >news on NBC, the reporter in Afghanistan near Tora Bora also
reported
> > > >using
> > > > >"hundreds of metres" when describing bin Laden's possible hiding
> >place.
> > > > >
> > > > >Also he stated that the deaths were the results of wrong
co-ordinates
> > > > >radioed to the plane overhead as to where to drop the bomb.  I
wonder
> >if
> > > > >someone made a metric/English conversion error.  Will we ever know,
> >or
> > > >will
> > > > >it be hushed up?  Can you see the headlines:
> > > > >
> > > > >"AMERICAN SOLDIERS DIE IN VAIN BECAUSE OF ENGLISH/METRIC SYSTEM
> >MISTAKE".
> > > > >Enough of these headlines might get the ball rolling.
> > > > >
> > > > >John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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