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Subject: [USMA:17512] RE: America NOT responsible for their problems


2002-01-20

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From: "Nat Hager III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 2002-01-20 20:38
Subject: [USMA:17510] RE: America NOT responsible for their problems


> I agree wholeheartedly.  Americans may be a bit arrogant in some respects,
> but you can't lay all the world's problems at our feet.  For a good
> perspective on the lessons of 9-11, see Tom Friedman in today's NY Times:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/20/opinion/20FRIE.html
>
> Nat
>
> >
> >
> > Hi guys
> >
> > If Argentine economy collapses or there is economic
> > problem in Thailand or Indonesia,  the blame is on
> > their politicians and NOT on USA.
> >
> > The politicians in these third world countries talk in
> > local language,  but they love
> > 1. US Dollar
> > 2. Swiss banks
> >
> > Yes.  They loot billions of dollars from their
> > countries, convert it into USD and deposit it in Swiss
> > Banks.  So are the businessmen of these countries,
> > who put their profits in the foreign banks.
> >
> > USA cannot be responsible for their problems.
> > Now that Euro is there,  they will convert some of
> > their looted money into this currency.
> >
> > 1 day, the politicians/businessmen of the third world
> > countries will realise what is the cost of 'HONESTY'.
> > It requires a person like Vladimir Putin to clean
> > every nation.
> >
> > As for America's arrogance, they have a correction
> > mechanism which is 'democrary'.  If they have corrupt
> > businessmen,  they will see more 'Enrons', otherwise
> > they will prosper.
> >
> > As for the America's manufacturing sector,  the answer
> > is metrication,  if they do,  their efficiency will go
> > up, otherwise they go down.
> > Airbus has overtaken Boeing in orders in 2001 also.
> > Japanese are pushing their lead in cars and suv's and
> > these are just few examples.
> >
> > Its upto the Americans to learn the metric lessons and
> > for the third world people to learn lessons on
> > honesty.
> >
> > Madan
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Here's the article.
> > > cm
> > >
> >
> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:43:51 -0500 (EST)
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: A washingtonpost.com article from a
> > > washingtonpost.com user
> > >
> > > You have been sent this message from a
> > > washingtonpost.com user as a courtesy of the
> > > Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com).
> > >
> > > To view the entire article, go to
> > > Variables.HTTP_REFERER
> > >
> > > After This
> > >
> > > By David J. Rothkopf
> > >
> > >
> > > Somewhere in the world today walks the next Marx.
> > > But he is not a communist, and he almost certainly
> > > is not an expatriate German slaving over his
> > > theories in the stacks of the British Library.
> > > Nonetheless, he or she will attempt to seize upon
> > > the trends behind today's headlinesto shape a
> > > competitor to "American capitalism" that the
> > > disenfranchised in nations around the world can
> > > embrace.
> > >
> > > She may be in the streets of Buenos Aires,
> > > protesting an economic meltdown that has left her
> > > family in the dust. He may have been among the
> > > Palestinians celebrating at the collapse of the
> > > World Trade Center or among the Indonesians marching
> > > beneath banners bearing the likeness of Osama bin
> > > Laden. He may be in Beijing working to become the
> > > architect of reforms that might actually make
> > > "market socialism" a sustainable concept. She might
> > > be a Nigerian whose daughter is among the 25,000
> > > children worldwide who die every day because, in the
> > > era of Perrier and artificial hearts, they lack
> > > clean water, basic medicine or food. He might even
> > > be a Russian seeking to reestablish that country's
> > > leadership with an approach that is an alternative
> > > to an increasingly self-interested, inflexible
> > > United States.
> > >
> > > We may not know the region from which the next Marx
> > > will hail or his particular approach. But we can be
> > > sure that someone, somewhere will offer an
> > > alternative vision. And as America stands astride
> > > the world, the fact that so many of us, citizens of
> > > the most successful nation in history, think that
> > > such a threat to our values is impossible may be the
> > > very thing that will allow it to come true.
> > >
> > > Never in the history of nations or ideas has there
> > > been an extended period in which one view has
> > > prevailed without challenge, particularly one that
> > > is seen by many to be widening the gaps between the
> > > world's comparatively few rich people and the great
> > > majority who are poor.
> > >
> > > Rome was supposed to last forever, and fell. Kings
> > > ruled by divine right, and fell. The British Empire
> > > was the mightiest in the world but could not stand
> > > up against the will of its subjects. The Industrial
> > > Revolution was transformed when it generated a
> > > clamor for workers' rights and unions and communism
> > > itself. In business, what dominant brand has ever
> > > remained unchallenged? As Swiss watchmakers and
> > > American car makers, steel companies and television
> > > networks all know, the seeds of disaster lie in a
> > > triumph so great that it stifles the will to
> > > innovate, to evolve and to attend to the needs of
> > > the markets or peoples upon whom you depend for
> > > success.
> > >
> > > The end of the Cold War was not, as some would have
> > > it, the End of History. It was, instead, the end of
> > > one challenge to capitalism. And if we do not
> > > recognize the costs of the hubristic interpretation
> > > of world affairs we have accepted during the past
> > > decade (that we are right and all others must play
> > > by our rules or founder), then we will be making it
> > > easier for a new generation of challenges to arise.
> > >
> > > The harbingers of this looming threat are not just
> > > in the dissatisfaction of the world's poor. They
> > > also lie in the frustrations of America's allies at
> > > this moment of our undisputed greatness.
> > >
> > > Recently, one of Latin America's senior diplomats --
> > > a known supporter of the United States -- asked me,
> > > "What kind of message is America sending? In
> > > Argentina, they thought they were playing by U.S.
> > > rules, being a good friend to the United States,
> > > helping you from Haiti to Bosnia. And what was their
> > > reward? You turn away at their moment of greatest
> > > need. They are not alone in this feeling." He went
> > > on to say that many of America's friends in Latin
> > > America and elsewhere think that we are good at
> > > asking for cooperation, good at directing -- and not
> > > so good at listening or giving.
> > >
> > > This is not a new view. But recent events have
> > > exacerbated feelings of frustration with the United
> > > States on these points. A European politician with
> > > whom I spoke a few weeks ago complained about the
> > > so-called Bush Doctrine, the president's "Whose side
> > > are you on?" policy toward terrorism. This was not
> > > his idea of what an alliance should be. "It's a
> > > one-way street. You say we are either with your or
> > > against you. And who decides? America does." When I
> > > repeated this politician's reaction a few days later
> > > to a group of senior Asian military leaders, they
> > > laughed and nodded in agreement.
> > >
> > > At the moment, the U.S. government talks a good game
> > > about engagement in the world, but the reality is in
> > > large part disengagement and self-absorption -- just
> > > the sorts of approaches that leave openings and
> > > persuasive arguments for would-be rivals.
> > >
> > > The war against terrorism is worthy, but it is
> > > really a war to protect Americans. From Latin
> > > America to Africa to Asia, any one of which may give
> > > rise to the next Marx, terrorists will wage their
> > > campaigns with little or no direct opposition from
> > > Washington. We talk of globalization but in the past
> > > eight years, since NAFTA and the Uruguay Round in
> > > 1994, Congress has primarily chosen a path of
> > > protection on trade issues and has made few major
> > > advances in the area of trade liberalization, with
> > > the exception of China's accession to the WTO. In
> > > the meantime, U.S. influence in international
> > > financial institutions has advanced policies that
> > > promote hard currencies and the interests of Wall
> > > Street above those of local populations to such an
> > > extent that they have triggered a backlash against
> > > the "Washington consensus" -- a recipe for emerging
> > > markets reform that stresses privatization, market
> > > opening and trade liberalization. Indeed, to say
> > > "Washington institutions" in most of the !
> > > world is to speak of rich man's rules.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong. I'm no latter-day Che Guevara
> > > wandering out of the jungle. Quite the contrary. The
> > > radical reformer to whom I think we need to pay the
> > > most attention is none other than Margaret Thatcher.
> > > She championed the idea of a "nation of
> > > shareholders." When she became Britain's prime
> > > minister, 2 million people in her country owned
> > > stock. When she left office, there were seven times
> > > that. That shift transformed a nation that had
> > > viewed itself as consigned to stagnation and
> > > frustration into a world leader in innovation
> > > regardless of the political party at the helm.
> > >
> > > This is where most of the reforms of the recent past
> > > have fallen short. This is where capitalism has let
> > > down most emerging markets. This is where the United
> > > States has created the greatest opportunity for
> > > anger and backlash. In the 1990s, the International
> > > Monetary Fund, banks andother advocates of the
> > > interests of advanced capitalist countries went
> > > around the world preaching the much-needed
> > > "Washington consensus" reforms. But they did not
> > > address the central issue bedeviling most emerging
> > > and less developed economies: ownership.
> > >
> > > When governments sold their assets as part of
> > > privatization schemes, they were bought by those who
> > > had access to capital. These were either
> > > multinational corporations or powerful local
> > > business people with the assets and credit history
> > > to borrow to buy -- in other words, the elites. When
> > > borders were opened or new capital flowed into the
> > > country, who benefited most? Those who already
> > > controlled the majority of local assets. Call them
> > > what you will: the<em> chaebol</em> of Korea, the
> > > former apparatchiks of Russia, the kleptocrats of
> > > Indonesia or the family-owned groups of Latin
> > > America, the elites and their closest associates in
> > > the international financial community benefited most
> > > from the reforms of the '90s.
> > >
> > > But when troubled times led to austerity programs in
> > > these countries, it was the newly laid-off workers,
> > > small borrowers and others who were slammed when
> > > currencies were suddenly and artlessly devalued.
> > > Sure, plenty of big businesses faltered. But the
> > > benefits of reform were generally greater and
> > > problems far fewer for the elites. So, too, with
> > > globalization: Rich nations have benefited more than
> > > poor, while the number of those living in absolute
> > > poverty (or indeed starving) has risen starkly.
> > > According to Canadian Feed the Children, the richest
> > > 358 people in the world have a net worth equal to
> > > the combined annual income of the poorest 2.3
> > > billion.
> > >
> > > So, now again the cry of the populists is falling on
> > > receptive ears. That populism may take the form of
> > > the tragicomic economic policies of Eduardo Duhalde,
> > > Argentina's fifth head of state since mid-December,
> > > or the rhetoric of the increasingly paranoid and
> > > erratic Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. It may be the
> > > regionalism
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
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