My country setting was Nederland from the outset, where I had changed every
visible setting to ISO 8601, only the long date notation could not be
changed.
However, now I have changed the country setting from Nederland to USA and
changed the currency, grouping of numbers, decimal sign, measurement,. time-
and both date settings there by hand. In other words, I now use heavily
modified USA country settings.
Under Nederland I could not set the long date to the format you proposed, it
gave an error. In Nederland it gave the format Zaterdag, 2 juni 2002 = dddd,
d MMM iiii. Now my e-mail headers should be right,

Han
Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The Netherlands

----- Original Message -----
From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, 2002 June 01 19:45
Subject: [USMA:20316] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249


> 2002-06-01
>
> What is your long date set to?  That is the one that will appear in the
Original Message heading.  Make sure it is in the form:

dddd, yyyy-MM-dd

This will give you the form of Saturday, 2002-06-01

>Also, if that can't be resolved, check with a local person who understands
computers.  Make it known to him that you have the regional settings set
properly, but the result is the US format. Make sure he understands that US
users who have changed their defaults to ISO-8601 settings have the correct
display.

> Try changing to Dutch or German and see if it makes a difference.  Just as
a test.  Have friends and or relatives change their settings and send test
messages back and forth and see if what the result is.  It all else fails,
go to the Microsoft website and to the support section and send an email
message indicating you have this problem and what they suggest you should do
to correct it.

> It has to work for you if it works for me and others.  It must be some
simple oversight.

Don't give up!  Keep trying.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, 2002-06-01 04:25
Subject: [USMA:20311] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249

> > I simply have no clue why both my computers, that did not even default
to US settings, should send them in e-mails. I put this question to the ISO
8601 list some time ago, but they could not offer any solution. Many of its
members have the same kind of problem. My old and new computers defaulted to
Dutch settings. I see correct and incorrect headers in messages coming from
other list members at random. My own headers shown as "Original Messages"
within the messages are also at random.
Under the Dutch settings I changed the short date format to YYYY-MM-DD.
In the time settings I left the AM and PM fields empty. Otherwise they are
24 h.
One thing is certain: I do not want to use MM-DD-YYYY and AM/PM. My BIOS
uses US settings, however. And I do not dare to change them; the BIOS
itself offers no option to do it. Suppose I try to flash an update, and my
computer crashes while flashing? That risk and that price is too high. If
the problem is caused by my computer, I simply will have to put up with it,
just as we are forced to put up with dpi and xx inch screens for the time
being.

Han
Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The  Netherlands

----- Original Message -----
From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:52 PM
Subject: [USMA:20285] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249

 2002-05-31
Han,

I use both Outlook Express and IE6, not Eudora.  And my headers are correct.
John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2002-05-28 15:30
Subject: [USMA:20254] Correction of message USMA 20249

John and all,

Correction from USMA 20249:

The clock and date down on the right side of the screen are ISO 8601. The
clock says 07:22, not 7:22 when writing this. Putting the mouse pointer over
the clock shows the date in ISO 86021 format. I have also checked the
headers of my e-mails.

should be

The clock and date down on the right side of the screen are ISO 8601. The
clock says 07:22, not 7:22 AM while writing this message. Putting the mouse
pointer over the clock shows the date in ISO 8601 format. I have also
checked the headers of my e-mails.

I wonder, you use Eudora 5.1, I use Outlook Express, attached to IE 6. Might
that be the cause of wrong time-and date settings popping up in e-mail
headers? Might some invisible settings in OE be overriding Windows
preferences?

Han
Historian of Dutch Metrication,  Nijmegen, The Netherlands



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