I did not use y, but i, as it was in the Dutch language. dddd, iiii-MM-dd Yet I got an error.
Is it not ironic that I have to start with US defaults, just in order to get the correct date- and time formats in the end? It now seems to be the case that the original US settings tend to override any other country setting when sending e-mails! That is why you see them in so many European messages! In fact, with Nederland as the country, the e-mail headers should be in the Dutch language as well. But they were in English with the wrong settings. Now I have fought fire with fire! Han Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2002 June 02 17:43 Subject: Re: [USMA:20323] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249 2002-06-02 Maybe the long date in Nederlands has to be: dddd, iiii-MM-dd. It may not have liked the "y" for year, if that is what you did. Or did you replace every y with an I and it still would not except that? If so, that is odd. It appears to be right now! Except the word JUNE appears in the date instead of 06. This is because you have 3 Ms in the date field in stead of just 2. Change it to yyyy-MM-dd. Then the date should appear all numeric as mine does. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2002-06-02 06:39 Subject: [USMA:20323] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249 My country setting was Nederland from the outset, where I had changed every visible setting to ISO 8601, only the long date notation could not be changed. However, now I have changed the country setting from Nederland to USA and changed the currency, grouping of numbers, decimal sign, measurement, time- and both date settings there by hand. In other words, I now use heavily modified USA country settings. Under Nederland I could not set the long date to the format you proposed, it gave an error. In Nederland it gave the format Zaterdag, 2 juni 2002 = dddd, d MMM iiii. Now my e-mail headers should be right, Han Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 2002 June 01 19:45 Subject: [USMA:20316] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249 2002-06-01 What is your long date set to? That is the one that will appear in the Original Message heading. Make sure it is in the form: dddd, yyyy-MM-dd This will give you the form of Saturday, 2002-06-01 Also, if that can't be resolved, check with a local person who understands computers. Make it known to him that you have the regional settings set properly, but the result is the US format. Make sure he understands that US users who have changed their defaults to ISO-8601 settings have the correct display. > > Try changing to Dutch or German and see if it makes a difference. Just as a test. Have friends and or relatives change their settings and send test messages back and forth and see if what the result is. It all else fails, go to the Microsoft website and to the support section and send an email message indicating you have this problem and what they suggest you should do to correct it. > > It has to work for you if it works for me and others. It must be some simple oversight. Don't give up! Keep trying. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 2002-06-01 04:25 Subject: [USMA:20311] Re: Correction of message USMA 20249 I simply have no clue why both my computers, that did not even default to US settings, should send them in e-mails. I put this question to the ISO 8601 list some time ago, but they could not offer any solution. Many of its members have the same kind of problem. My old and new computers defaulted to Dutch settings. I see correct and incorrect headers in messages coming from other list members at random. My own headers shown as "Original Messages" within the messages are also at random. Under the Dutch settings I changed the short date format to YYYY-MM-DD. In the time settings I left the AM and PM fields empty. Otherwise they are 24 h. One thing is certain: I do not want to use MM-DD-YYYY and AM/PM. My BIOS uses US settings, however. And I do not dare to change them; the BIOS itself offers no option to do it. Suppose I try to flash an update, and my computer crashes while flashing? That risk and that price is too high. If the problem is caused by my computer, I simply will have to put up with it, just as we are forced to put up with dpi and xx inch screens for the time being. Han Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
