At 13:54 +0200 8/07/2002, Wizard of OS wrote:
>maybe you should add, the car is a european (german) invention
>
>Otto, Diesel and Wankel were germans, what a coincidence

Right - but Lenoir, who in 1860 made the first 2-stroke engine with 
controlled ignition (fed with gas) was a Belgian, Beau de Rochas who 
developed in 1862 the theory of the 4-stroke engine was a French... 
Otto made the first 4-stroke engine in 1876. And Rudolf Diesel was 
born in 1858 in Paris!

I appreciate you enthousiasm for Germany and German people, but don't 
forget that Europe has a common cultural identity since a long time!

Louis

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