Hi Markus and friends: This proposal reminds me of my basic intitative "Metric Norms for Time Standrard; Standards Engineer, Bureau of Indian Standards; V5 N4; 1971 Oct.-Dec.; pp 58-62---published in Standards Engineer of Indian Standards Instition, New Delhi (India) Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2108 Henry Court, MAHWAH, NJ, 07430-3805 Tele: +1(201)684-0191/6696 (care MUNISH VIJ)
>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [USMA:20923] Re: AAT ICAS metric-time initiative >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:10:29 -0700 > >John is evidently quite right about the ICAS' proposal being one that would >'destroy' key characteristics of the SI system, such as coherence and >consistency. > >However, if one approaches this as a proposal that would *change* the SI >system in this regard, then it would be worthy of consideration (this is >evidently wishful thinking...). So, instead of considering the 'chron' as >an "addendum" unit to the SI, I'd propose that it be considered as a >*replacement* for the second itself! > >But I do have serious reservations about this proposal as it unfortunately >does not follow the basic fundamental KISS principle. It's indeed far too >complicated for the Joe Six pack on the street to follow or relate to. > >Therefore, Mr. Stone, please take my comments as constructive criticism. >I'd simply forget about this business of t, tt, t before, t after, etc. >I'd just stick with defining the chron as 0.864 of a second and define time >as having 100 000 chrons in a day, write a clock like HH:CCC and get it >over with! Simple, direct to the point. > >The trick though starts with changes to the calendar. I'd vehemently >condemn ANY attempt to change the 7-day weekly cycle as it was proven >disastrous in the 18th century, and we should NOT make that same mistake >again. > >Since we're at it, let me propose that you consider a change to the >calendar system that would finally address the difficulty in stating time >overall as we normally do with any other measurement. Since we're... >"dreaming" here, why not make a proposal that would allow us to finally >write time thusly: >YYYY:M:DD:HH:CCC? > >In the above-proposed framework we would have 10 months of 36-37 days (odd >months would have odd days, even months would have even days) with >corrections made as we do nowadays when it comes to adding leap days. > >I'm honestly not sure if we could do better than that... :-S > >Sincerely, > >Marcus > >On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:11:44 > kilopascal wrote: > >2002-07-09 > > > >Ron, > > > >Many have come along with ideas on reforming out present system of >measuring > >time. None have really stuck out as being nothing more than different >from > >our present system. > > > >One major flaw in your scheme for calendar reform is that your proposal >does > >not fit coherently within the framework of the International System of >Units > >(SI). There already is a valid and coherent unit of time within SI. >That > >unit is the second (s). No other time unit can exist and be a part of >SI. > >Those are the rules. > > > >A unit like your Cron would not fit in properly. SI units relate to each > >other simply. That is with a factor of 1:1. Your Cron would destroy the > >harmony and coherency of SI. Therefore, I can't see it ever being >accepted. > > > >Instead of conceiving new units of time, why not come up with a standard > >that would be based on the second and be coherent with SI. Then you >will > >be heading in the right direction. > > > >John > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Alliance for the Advancement of Technology (AAT)" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, 2002-07-09 11:57 > >Subject: [USMA:20908] AAT ICAS metric-time initiative > > > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I have recently subscribed for information about > >> metrication. I am interested in strategies for > >> presenting uses of metric measures. > >> > >> The nonprofit Alliance for the Advancement of Technology > >> (AAT) is pursuing development of a metric-time standard, > >> the Integrated Chronological Applications System (ICAS), > >> and has explored certain strategies of presentation > >> in the current version 6.02. > >> > >> Along the way a number of technical issues have also > >> been considered, however certain standards issues > >> also remain. > >> > >> AAT ICAS in Brief version 6.02 is available in both HTML > >> and PDF versions from AAT ICAS Itinica on the > >> aatideas web at http://www.aatideas.org/itinica via Internet. > >> > >> Until later, > >> > >> Ron > >> -- > >> Ronald L. Stone, programs manager > >> Alliance for the Advancement of Technology (AAT) > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.aatideas.org > >> > >> AAT > >> PO Box 141155 > >> Mpls., MN 55414-1155 > >> USA > >> > > > > > > >Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably >Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. >Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
