There is no dispute as to the value of velocity of light adopted by BIPM/CCU 
and need not change till 'new interval for *decimal or otherwise* second are 
adopted. I had only drawn the attention of scholars the an improved value of 
this 'constant' had beeb reported in the TIME Magazine (1972), but remained 
ignored! Well,
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [USMA:21631] Re: Velocity of Light
>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:25:52 -0400
>
>2002-08-10
>
>The metre is defined as the distance light travels in a vacuum in 299 792
>458 s^-1.  Thus, the speed of light is EXACTLY 299 792 458 m/s.  There is 
>no
>other speed.  Forget this 299 792 456.2 m/s!  There is only one definition
>as stated above. What is so difficult about this?  Come on...get with the
>program!
>
>It is very common to give rounded figures for any measurement when reported
>by the media.  It is done that way to make the reading simpler.  It is not
>to be taken as gospel.  Don't get hung up on this.  I frequently us 10 
>m/s^2
>for the standard acceleration to gravity instead of 9.806 65 m/s^2.  If a
>more exact number is need for a specific purpose, it will be used.  But,
>when approximation is ok, we always use the rounded figures.  Even the
>FFU-ists do it.
>
>Light Year?  Miles per second?  What is this nonsense?  These are not SI
>units?  We use metres here, with the proper scaling prefixes.  We really
>don't care how many miles per wigwam the speed of light is.
>
>Please help us to get the US metricated and not waste your time or ours 
>with
>talk of redefining the metre.  Leave the definition of the metre and second
>to the experts at the BIPM.  Talk of changing the metre and second will 
>only
>confuse people who we are trying to convince to accept SI as a better 
>system
>than FFU.
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, 2002-08-09 19:32
>Subject: [USMA:21617] Velocity of Light
>
>
> > Hi All:
> >   Using the term 'speed of light' does not fit into the SI-practice; 
>when
>it
> > is desired to link or express it with the definition of LENGTH unit
>*Metre*.
> > In my humble way, I tried to give the BEST value for velocity of light 
>and
> > presented a way to:MEASURE LENGTH UNIT USING TIME TAKEN TO TRAVERSE THE
> > DISTANCE *METRE*.
> >   ONE light year is a measure of 'distant stars'. This by definition is
>the
> > distance traversed by light in a period of 'one tropical year'. 
>Scientists
> > working under Dr. Kenneth M.Evanson at National Bureau of Standards
>bettered
> > the 'measured' velocity of light to *New Accuracy* of 299.7924562 x 10^8
> > metre per second (existing time scale). This figure work to
>186282.39593276
> > miles per second. The rounded value reported by CNN (300000 km/s)and
> > resented by many in their communication to usma is meant for the
> > understanding of common man and not for scientific world.
> >   This bettered value was reported in the TIME Magazine, New York in 
>their
> > issue dated 4 December 1972; and I re-worked to express *METRE in terms 
>of
> > time interval* in my base work: The Metric Second published by Indian
> > Standards, New Delhi in their Bulletin V25 N4 (1973 April), about which 
>I
> > have referred earlier.
> >   In the *NEW* aspect, the METRE being proposed shall be 1.11194886884
>times
> > the 'defined metre' and correspond to: *the distance traversed by light,
>in
> > vacuum, during the time interval 1/97059575.22th of the 'decimal 
>second'*.
> >   Time conversion factor = 0.36; and distance conversion factor =
> > 1.11194886884 OR their reciprocals shall go a long way in re-evaluation 
>of
> > the "derived units and quantities", linked with Time and Length Units.
> > Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph B. Reid)
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: [USMA:21588] Re: Speed of Light
> > >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:54:55 -0400
> > >
> > >Louis Jourdan wrote in USMA 21581
> > >
> > > >At 11:00 -0400 8/08/2002, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
> > > >>I think that M.R.Madam has read too much into the CNN report.  CNN
> > > >>mentioned that the speed of light is approximately 300 000 km/s, 
>they
> > >gave
> > > >>no other figure, nor did the despatch state how fast the speed of
>light
> > >is
> > > >>slowing down.  Until we get more details we can only continue to use
>the
> > > >>accepted speed of light, which is
> > > >>         c = 299 792 458 m/s.
> > > >>Since 1948 this relationship defines the metre in terms of the 
>second,
> > > >
> > > >Was it not in 1983?
> > >
> > >
> > >Quite right, Louis. Thanks for the correctioon.  The figure for the 
>speed
> > >of light was adopted in 1975, and that figure was used to define the
>metre
> > >in 1983.
> > >This was obviously one of my bad days.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>which was defined in 1968 as:
> > > >>"The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the 
>radiation
> > > >>corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of
>the
> > > >>ground state of the caesium 133 atom."
> > > >
> > > >Was it not in 1967?
> > > >
> > > >Louis
> > >
> > >
> > >The BIPM metric bible says that the latest version of the definition of
>the
> > >second was adopted by the 13th CGPM, 1967-1968.  I did not know which
>date
> > >to choose, so I wrote 1968. It probably was 1967 because it was
>Resolution
> > >1 of the meeting.  The bible lists 6 other resolutions of the meeting.
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >Joseph B.Reid
> > >17 Glebe Road West
> > >Toronto  M5P 1C8             Tel. 416 486-6071
> >
> >
> >
> >
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