Well written, Marcus. My sentiments entirely.
Mike
Perth, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:59 PM
Subject: [USMA:21716] Re: Towards A World Calendar


| On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:14:53
|  Brij Bhushan Vij wrote:
| >Han, Mike, Marcus and friends:
| >I had already forgotton the inscidence. In fact, I use computer of my
| >children that had *crashed* and had to be reformatted or whatever! I had
not
| >directly referred to your 'rediculling' my efforts. It is just natural.
All
| >these years, I had been accepted as NO BODY since I have had NO FORMAL
| >education, but have been an autodidact. I have, knowing that *NO WORK*
had
| >been done in this area took upon myself to see through; and as a result
| >THREW UP my Air Force Commission in 1983. I feel no regrets, since I
| >invested my TIME and whatever I could save after meeting my childrens'
| >needs. I have had many such - what one may call setbacks. Relax, sir.
|
| Thanks, Brij, for sharing some personal info about yourself with us.  It
does help us understand and know you better.  Even though I know I haven't
been the one mentioned specifically in this incidence I feel I must point
out that I do have a lot of respect for you and your work.  "Self-taught"
men always deserve my extra respect and admiration because it goes to show
a lot about the character of people.  It strongly indicates that an
individual is willing not to get stuck in time and wants to advance him or
herself in life.  Way to go, Brij!  :-)
|
| >  Now to calendar: *SCIENCE* has already tried (Decimalising the Year
| >as:Bessilian Year; the Day, about which attempts are still ON (since I
| >started work on calendars); the Second (already in use to the extent of
| >sub-multiples or count of time in SECONDS by astronomers). IT HAS BEEN
THE
| >*hour* WHICH lacked this attempt. This is what I present it to all my
| >friends.
| >  DOWNWARD decimalisation of the hour is *simple* but it is the UPWARDS
that
| >we as humans are linked to the comforts of our daily routines as:
| >DAY/Week/Month/Year and so ON.
|
| Indeed.  This just goes to show the natural tendency of people to be
averse to change.  I'm just glad that the use of technology, which usually
is just forced down our throats regardless of our inputs, is more and more
prevalent in our societies.  So, in the end, ordinary people end up being
forced to swallow up some of these changes without complaining or effort.
|
| I just find it sad that when it comes to this part of technology, system
of measurements, that people fail to realize its full benefits.  However, I
continue to be hopeful that if we can finally convince "the man on the
street" that this is just another of those things that they should just let
"nature take its course" so that this war can be over soon.
|
| > If SI is to adopt a different unit: WHY NOT
| >THE HOURS as BASE but count of *long intervals of time, is what we got
to
| >take care*!
|
| Unfortunately with the way the hour is presently defined this is a major
no-no.  One must understand that the SI framework is built around the use
of the much smaller-sized second.  The coherence/consistence that have
finally been built into this system depends on it!  BUT (and this is also
one of the strong reasons for my insistance on advocating a *decimal
hour*), if the hour was pure decimal, it would greatly facilitate its use
and adoption for many applications.  Just like we see the extensive use of
the km, the g, the mg, etc.  In other words, the use of the hour would be
just like as if it were a prefixed second, which it actually *would* be!!!
|
| Now, the problem in this case would be how to tackle the 10^+5
relationship it would have to the second, as we do not have a specific
prefix for it...  Well...  In this case I'd welcome suggestions from our
friends here.  Any ideas, folks?...
|
| >Some important parameters used for calendaric calculations are:
| >Length of the Tropical Year  = 365d.24219878125 - 0.07614 (t-1900)...
| >If my calulations make sense, there is need to examine the CALENDAR
| >QUESTION; I have the will to accept my failure where more improvement
can be
| >done.
|
| I found your "model" worthy of consideration, Brij.  Thank you kindly for
sharing this usually overlooked aspect of our calendar system.  Very
educational.  I can also see no reason why its implementation would be
contingent upon changes to the meter or even the second.  Perhaps you could
clarify this particular aspect to us.  In other words, perhaps this part of
your proposal could be implemented *even upon our current time construct*.
|
| >  Yes, to those friends who advocate the 'TEN (10)' philosophy, WHY
can't
| >they  think that *TEN belong to Decimal Notation and NOT METRICATION,
|
| The answer is simple, Brij, because, as I said before, these two concepts
are intrinsically related!!!  One cannot talk about metrication *without*
bringing decimalization into the picture.  Please understand that you
CANNOT separate or dissociate or untangle one from the other.  SI ***IS***
a *decimal system of units of measurements*!  So much so that the very
aspect of prefixes is *defined* therein AND as a PART of it.  True, one
could regard decimal prefixes as "outside" mathematical entities and move
on.  However, one must remember that this invention was brought upon us as
an indissoluble part of the metric system, from its very inception yonder
years ago.
| >...
| >  I again tender 'unqualified appology' if I have hurt any member's
| >feelings. As far me ALL FORGOTTON!...
|
| As far as I'm concerned this never happened, Brij.  What matters to me,
particularly, is the objective unbiased discussion of technical proposals.
It doesn't really matter even who is behind them, what matters is their
merits!
|
| Regards,
|
| Marcus
|
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