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To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: [USMA:21832] Re: Dual labeling 


> Markus Kuhn wrote:
> >"Carl Sorenson" wrote
> >>Is there much dual labeling in Australia? England?
> > 
> >Grocery shops: In England, there is still dual labeling of 
> >beer/cider/milk because the use of pints is still allowed
> >for these three product groups)
> 
> Legally speaking, the use of pints is still *allowed* on labels for
> almost any product in the UK. The question is whether pint-only labels
> are permitted and whether pint sizing is permitted...
> 
> 
> I decided to come back to the group after updating my 'Rules wizard'. I
> can't resist contributing to such an interesting topic.
> 
> 
> For 'prepackaged' beer:
> As I understand it... Labels must have a metric indication. They can be
> metric-only or dual. Imperial-only labels are forbidden. Package sizes
> can be either metric or imperial.
> 
> However, the 1985 regulations are too old to be online reference so
> please feel free to correct me.
> 
> For 'draught' beer:
> Serving sizes must be imperial-only. Metric servings are forbidden. The
> mandatory price indication in the bar must have an imperial indication.
> It can be imperial-only or dual. Metric-only price indications are
> forbidden.

this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
typical british!

> For 'milk in returnable containers' (e.g. glass bottles)
> Sizes can be imperial or metric. Labels can be imperial-only,
> metric-only, or dual.
> 
> The continuance of imperial-only options for this product is due to a
> cultural feature. Almost everybody in Britain used to get milk delivered
> by hand each morning to the doorstep. It was occasionally marketed as
> the 'pinta' although I never heard anyone other than actors in adverts
> use this term. It is whole topic in itself. 'Ernie the fastest milkman
> in the west' was not just a funny Benny Hill song.
> 
> For 'milk in non-returnable containers' (e.g. cardboard, plastic)
> Labels must have a metric indication. They can be metric-only or dual.
> Imperial-only labels are forbidden. Package sizes can be either metric
> or imperial.
> 
> Retailers were slow to introduce metric milk sizes and metric-only
> labels presumably because of psychological leakage from the doorstep
> pint issue. However, they now appear to have got over the reluctance and
> metric only milk (label and package size) is increasingly common.
> 
> In summary, the intent of the regulations was only to exempt the
> (politically sensitive) pint of draught beer drawn by hand in a pub and
> the pint of milk delivered by hand to the doorstep. Bottled beer and
> milk bought in shops are subject to similar rules to any other product.
> 
> The regulations are spread across several instruments but see:
> http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1994/Uksi_19942868_en_2.htm
> 
> --
> Terry Simpson
> Human Factors Consultant
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> Phone: +44 7850 511794
> 

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