2002-10-14

I have a few thoughts too.!

Read the interspersed comments below:


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 2002-10-14 13:18
Subject: [USMA:22709] Re: carpentry


> A few thoughts (I wrote the review of Alder's book in The New Yorker):
>
> 1. In a pretty interesting book called "A Matter of Degrees: What
> Temperature Reveals About the Past and Future of Our Species, Planet, and
> Universe,"  the author (a physicist at Penn named Gino Segre) quotes
someone
> else explaining why a 2000 international conference on global warming
ended
> "with bitterness on all sides": "When something like this is killed, it is
> killed by an alliance of those who want too much with those who don't want
> anything."  There are more than a few members of this list server who
should
> take that remark to heart -- if their goal is to speed up adoption of the
> metric system in the United States.  In any American conversion to the
> metric system, there will be a very long period during which feet and
pounds
> will be used, inconsistently, alongside metres and kilograms.  Get over
it,
> and focus on areas in which using metric units would generate tangible
> benefits for those who convert.

I agree that FFU unit names will persist for sometime after almost
everything else has changed.  That is not a problem as long as those unit
names take on new values.  I see no reason why an inch can not be 25 mm, a
foot equal to 300 mm, a yard equal to a metre, a pound equal to 500 g, etc.
These old units would not be legal for trade and would not appear on any
product, but if people use them in speech that is fine.  But, with rounded
values, it would make it easier for me and others who use metric to
understand or get a better idea from what is spoken.  Otherwise what someone
may say will go in one ear and out the other.


(Companies that manufacture products sold
> outside the United States are far more likely to gain initially than
> ordinary American consumers, I would bet.)

The big multinational companies as well as heavy machinery are already
metric and have been so for the last 30 years.  In fact, about 30-40 % of
American products are already metric.  Some are relabelled in FFU for
purposes of marketing.  This makes the user feel he/she is buying a
non-metric product.  Most don't find out until they go to service it
themselves.

Small "Ma & Pa" shops that do very little exporting are not going to gain
much by changing if all they do is change just what they export.  Many will
attempt to sell what they produce and may gain some customers overseas
without metricating their products.  The overseas customer not aware that
the product he is buying contains non-standard parts in his market may
purchase the non-metric American product.  This gives the American company a
false impression that he can sell a non-metric part in the metric world.
But, when that customer goes to repair that part and finds even the simplest
of replacement parts that the product needs are not available in his home
market, he will never buy American again.  Imagine the cost in time and
money when a simple part like a screw has to be specially imported and may
take weeks to arrive.

Back in the early '90s, I visited Southern Steel near Panang, Malaysia.  One
of the foremen was very disgusted with the fact that our equipment did not
contain what he thought should be standard parts.  These were fuses, lights,
fasteners, etc.  He showed me rows of machines from all over the world and
informed me they were all made to the same standards.  They have never had a
problem replacing something simple when it failed.  His words still ring in
my ears:  "What you do in your own country is your business.  But, this is
not America!  This is Asia"  We never got another order from that company
again.  But, as a result of that trip, I began redesigning our product line
to use metric hardware.  And continue to do so to this day.  And never once
got a complaint from an American customer.  That is because metric hardware
is readily available here.



> 2. There is a big difference between animosity toward the metric system
and
> apathy about the metric system.  I think there is much less animosity
toward
> (or defensive "envy" of) the metric system in the United States than some
> USMA members seem to think. Most people simply don't care -- and they
don't
> need to care, since most average Americans' lives would not be noticeably
> improved, even in the long run, if they stopped measuring things the way
> they measure them now.

Most people are apathetic towards metric as long as they don't confront it.
But, as soon as you answer a question with a metric answer, you see the fur
fly.  "This is America, asshole, we use feet and inches here".  "Speak to me
in fuckin' 'merican".  If this isn't animosity, then what is?


> 3. The British pay a big price for driving on the left, but that doesn't
> mean that individual Britons are stupid for continuing to drive on the
left,
> and it doesn't mean that Britain is stupid for not converting to the
system
> used by the rest of the world.  Converting would have a huge cost, too,
> including, undoubtedly, a cost in lives.

What about the costs of not converting?  The cost of dual inventories, the
cost of lost orders, the cost of carrying a dual set of tools in your tool
box.  The cost of buying the wrong part and then having to return it.  And
so on and so on?

And speaking of lives, what about the loss of life when a hospital
miscalculates a drug dosage because people are always weighed in pounds and
drug dosages are always calculated in milligrams (or micrograms or
millilitres) per kilogram body mass.  Ok. the hospital get sued and has to
pay a penalty, but lets face it, they pass that cost on to the next patient
to walk in the door.  But, the bottom line is, someones loved one is dead.
And if it is a child, someones progenity is lost.  How do you explain to
someone who lost a loved one that their loved one was lost because someone
made an error when converting from English to metric units?   Let's just
hope someone close to you isn't a victim of  this type of error.

Even though the UK might gain in
> the long run by joining the rest of the world, the country's leaders could
> perfectly rationally decide that the immediate cost of changing would be
too
> great.
> 4. I am old enough to need reading glasses, and I find a millimeter scale
> very hard to read at arm's length.  That's just a fact.  It doesn't make
me
> an idiot or a Luddite.

OK!  Could you please explain to me how a carpenter in 96 % of the world
that uses only millimetre scales does it?  I recently asked some of our
Australian friends on this list how Australia was able to adopt.  I think
this would be interesting to hear.  If others say they were able to adapt
without a hitch, then what does that say about your capabilities if you say
you can't?

I'm not speaking of people who live in countries that went metric a century
or so ago, I speaking of countries that went metric in our life time.  They
changed quickly and did it almost problem free.  We have the example of
others to follow as to what methods work and what methods don't.  We also
have the aid of computers whose use was not wide-spread 30 years ago as they
are not now.  That should make the conversion simpler and less costly.  But,
when we come up with excuses, it really does make us look like luddites and
idiots.


 Nor does it mean that I think millimeters aren't
> BETTER for measuring other things. To me, it makes perfect sense for
> scientists all over the world (for example) to use the metric system; but
I
> also know that converting my home woodworking and carpentry to metric
> measurements would make my life worse, not better.  It is entirely
possible
> for me to hold those two ideas in my mind at the same time.
> 5. There is nothing necessarily bad or difficult about living with
multiple
> standards.

Except that working in two standards always increases the chance of errors
and thus the costs.  As long as we are willing to pay the cost, I guess we
have no choice.  I prefer not to pay the cost.

My computer computes in base two, while I compute in base ten.
> Converting either of us to the other's methodology for the sake of
> uniformity would be a disaster.  And as a practical matter, the difference
> between our ways of doing arithmetic is irrelevant, because the computer
> itself was designed to invisibly mediate between it and me.
> 6. Bitterly focusing on British pub pints is an utterly self-defeating
> strategy, if the goal is universal acceptance of the metric system.  What
> does it possibly matter to the metric system if British beer drinkers
prefer
> to drink beer 568.26 millilitres at a time?  The message from British beer
> drinkers is "Don't mess with the size of my beer."  Pick a different issue
> to get agitated about.  David Owen

Do you think the British would really get upset if the governemnt relaxed
the law and allowed beer to be sold in 500 mL or even 1 L amounts.
Australia and others went to 600 mL amounts and Germany and others have
their litre steins.  From an article recently posted to this listserver over
an Austrian woman who was serving a litre of beer at her bierkeller, a
trading standards officier said:

"However we have to enforce the law. If we make an exception in this case it
would set a precedent and we would have pubs up and down the country
demanding the right to be able to serve their drinks in half-litres and
litres."

It isn't the metricators messing with the size of the beer glass, it is the
law.  Without the law, the pubs would have switched to litres long ago.

John


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