2003 MAR 21 FRI

I don't like the "GRAM" idea either.  The "kg" replacement (in 100
years) would have to be monosyllabic.  Now many things would have to
change all at once for it to work out right.  How about the prefixes
"k", "h", and "da" become "K", "H", and "D"; and at the same time
kilogram (kg) becomes keg (kg) [or some other monosyllabic word whose
symbol would clearly be "kg"].  Then 1 Mg would become 1 Kkg, and 1 g
would become 1 mkg.

Does the BIPM have any better ideas?  At least then SI would truly be a
coherent system of units, unlike how the CGPM defines coherent system of
units.

Are there any other problems with SI?  I think the kilogram issue and
the k,h,da issue are the only two issue I can find off hand.  Oh yeah,
how do we define the kilogram without a prototype?  Which mean that the
newton is based off a prototype thus the ampere is based off a prototype
resulting in the permeability constant of the universe being base off
the kilogram prototype.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,
Matthew Zotter
SC, USA


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:49 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:25257] RE: Mass

We've been through this one already, Brij.

First, the spoken GRAM is identical to the spoken gram -- leading to the
same confusion as between Calorie and calorie.

Second, it violates the rule of all lower case in unit names, including
those named after people.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of Brij Bhushan Vij
>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 16:47
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Subject: [USMA:25256] RE: Mass
>
>
>Hi Bill and friends:
>Just to remind my suggestion in USMA 24046 to use *All Capitals* in
>GRAM=kilogram=1000g. The tonne shall be equal to kG; and gram, g=mG
etc.
>Regards,
>Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: [USMA:25250] RE: Mass
>>Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:14:11 -0800
>>
>>Terry Simpson wrote:
>> >[A] tidy up of the SI system would perhaps include abandoning
prefixes
>>that
>> >are not multiples of 1000. So we would no longer need the following
>> >prefixes: 'h', 'da', 'd' or 'c'. Thus we would only need to
>deal with one
>> >anomaly of lower case i.e. 'k'.
>>
>>The prefixes h and c are used with some very common and popular
>units. The
>>hectare is very useful in real-estate, including specifying the area
of
>>farms and the planted area of individual crops within a farm. The
>>hectopascal (hPa) is useful in weather reports, as it is numerically
the
>>same as the familiar, but obsolete, millibar.
>>
>>And, in spite of the acceptance of millimeters in construction
>(especially
>>in Australia, for example), the centimeter remains an extremely useful
>>unit. The cubic centimeter (cm²) is also very useful for
>specifying small
>>enclosed volumes (even though the milliliter variant of that unit is
>>customarily used where liquids are involved).
>>
>>Elimination of the prefix d would also cause a problem. The formal
>>definition of the liter is 1 cubic decimeter (1 dm³). If d were
>>eliminated, we could say it was 1000 cubic centimeters (1000 cm³) --
in
>>which case we couldn't eliminate the prefix c. (We could hardly
>define the
>>liter as 1000 mL. That would be a tautology.)
>>
>>The elimination of da (for deca) might be possible. However, it
wouldn't
>>hurt to keep it, even though it's rarely used.
>>
>>Bill Potts, CMS
>>Roseville, CA
>>http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>
>
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