Yes, I want to have a choice, but it irks me if I am not given it and I have to 
use something I detest, and even more when it is not even from an Aerican 
compamy but a Japanese one.
In the mean time I have arrived in Dublin. Apart from a few exceptions, all 
sals of offices etc. is expressed in m2. The butchers seem to be slowly turning 
round, advertising metric and Imperial pricing. Sometimes hard, sometimes soft 
metric like 113, 454 or 908 g.

Han


Citeren Bill Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I bought a large-screen (90 cm CRT) Mitsubishi TV and top-of-the-line
> Mitsubishi VCR (S-VHS) in the late 1980s. Both had am/pm only. (The TV has
> a
> on-screen-displayable digital clock.)
> 
> When the playback head on the Mitsubishi VCR gave out (and replacement
> parts
> were no longer available), I bought the top-of-the-line JVC VCR as a
> replacement. Again, just am/pm on the clock. However, as I record quite a
> few programs, I learned to program it the first day. It's actually fairly
> intuitive, now that on-screen menus are the standard approach. The
> Mitsubishi had on-screen programming, too. The VCR I had before the
> Mitsubishi didn't even have digital tuning and was only programmable via
> the
> front panel.
> 
> I don't mind them having am/pm available as an optional mode. I just object
> to having no choice in the matter. However, I don't lose any sleep over it.
> <g>
> 
> I'm now a DISH network subscriber. The network-synchronized clock for both
> my satellite receivers is am/pm only. Finally, we have caller-ID units on
> all our phones. You guessed it -- am/pm only. (I almost forgot the AT&T
> digital answering machine -- am/pm time stamping only.)
> 
> At least our heating/air conditioning thermostat is set to both 24 hour
> time
> and degrees Celsius (although the factory setting is am/pm and degrees
> Fahrenheit)..
> 
> Bill Potts, CMS
> Roseville, CA
> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nat Hager III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 14:58
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'U.S. Metric Association'
> >Subject: RE: [USMA:26189] RE: Bizarre
> >
> >
> >I had a Mitsubishi VCR in the mid-80's that had the clock in 24h format.
> >I think there were a couple other brands that did too, simply because
> >they were made in Japan and they didn't want to reconfigure for the US
> >market.
> >
> >Unfortunately they eventually did, along with making the programming
> >"simpler". When my old VCR started to eat tape in the mid-90's I gave up
> >and got a new one, and haven't even tried to program it since.
> >
> >Nat
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >Behalf Of Bill Potts
> >Sent: Monday, 2003 June 23 3:26
> >To: U.S. Metric Association
> >Subject: [USMA:26189] RE: Bizarre
> >
> >
> >I guess you should have bought a Minolta.
> >
> >I have a Program Back on my 1987 Minolta Maxxum 9000, allowing date
> >and/or time stamping of each exposure (among a huge range of functions,
> >including time-lapse photography, exposure bracketing, etc.). It allows
> >multiple formats for year, month and day (including what is now called
> >the ISO 8601 format). For time, it has only the ISO 8601 format --
> >hh:mm:ss -- no am and pm.
> >
> >Everything in the owner's manual, including operating temperature range,
> >is metric only.
> >
> >Bill Potts, CMS
> >Roseville, CA
> >http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Behalf Of Han Maenen
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 22:47
> >>To: U.S. Metric Association
> >>Subject: [USMA:26188] Bizarre
> >>
> >>
> >>I bought a Fuijtsu A204 digital camera this weekend. So I had to do the
> >
> >>settings. Time and date. The date could be set in three ways: 1)
> >>YYYY:MM:DD,
> >>2)  DD:MM:YYYY and 3) MM:DD:YYYY. I set it to 1. Then came time. It is
> >>in AM/PM format and I can NOT change this format!
> >>
> >>YYYY:MM:DD AM/PM
> >>
> >>Doesn't that look grand!
> >>Apart from this blatant and bizarre disregard for international
> >>standardization, all other information on screen (a 45 mm one) and in
> >>the manual was in metric.
> >>
> >>Han
> >>Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 





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