What are your dreams?Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishvatah : to mean *Let noble thoughts come to us from all sides*.
Yes, it has been Nautical Mile that has been (if I may use the word - CULPRIT) that has sustained, delayed and caused the failure of French Decimale system.Is a nautical Kilometre really needed?
No doubt, other SI-units shall be affected,but then these shall be affected with whatever changes are brought to time reform: decimale, metric of the one I cann now - Decimalisation of the HOUR in relation to arc-angle.No benefit unless other units are also changed. Changing SI units is EXPENSIVE.
EXPENSIVE, no: except changing and/or using the multiplication & division factors already available or with slight modification. To show, how this can be done - a table had been placed in my BASE contribution The Metric Second (1973).
This is NOT an advantage over the present system.It certainly become an advantage, if DUAL time presentation is to be taught to man-on-street or children in schools. However, multiplying *by 5/3 - to position of minute hand* gives directly decimal minutes after the HOUR - even when clock dial face remain UNCHAGED.
This is NOT an advantage over the present system.And, why not? How shall a student/researcher undertake 'calculatory work' without mathematical tables. Yes, today's calculators are improvised to do engineering calculations, using trigonometric values for functions - like what I estblished in the physical dimentions of Great bath at Mohenjo-Daro.
Pi/3 is the value for a 30-degree arc: what, and how shall the new value be used if the Quadrant of 100-gon (or as I then, called 'metric degree) were to be introduced?
I do not believe the choice of unit should effect this.It is the precision that science is looking forwards. How does it matter, if second is measured to 10^-6 accuracy or 10^-15 accuracy. It is the resolution factor, I am mentioning.
Man-on-the-street is generally NOT concerned with 'puctuality' BUT science and technology is! This is where I link *accuracy of decimal second with target resolution* in space flights/aeronaughtics.I can see a small benefit in working out time intervals less than a day but more the 59 seconds
On 'sabbath cycle' Not relevant.We have discussed this, and possibly observed this as a tumbling block due to 'ethnic/religious' sentiments. However, my working for evolving Leap Week concept aimed at improving 'continous count of events' using Weeks; to get over irregular duration of months - contolled by Kepler's Laws of Planetary Motion. I have attempted to control this by shifting a day from JULY to FEBRUARY; and leaving all other months intact in my VGRCalendar format. Also, Refer:
http://the-light.com/cal/bbv_greg-rhymecal.doc
By this, again it is meant that enhanced accuracy (in time measure) and resolution in arc-angle gives us a better option in understanging/forecasting events that cause interest among astrologers and astronomers alike.> 9. Decimalization of time of the Day/Hour harmonizes time-n-distance > interchange for application in astronomical computations to > Sun - Moon - > Earth in determination of Eclipses or other inter-calary needs; and
Does any other calendar person understand this?
There is initial difficulty in reconcilliation that *Time interval and Length unit* be changed. The long term benefits can only be imagined ' with an open mind' and TIME stands against this. In time, my point shall start homing in among experts.> 10. Implication of changed interval for 'time and length > units' need not..... This is NOT an advantage over the present system.
Selling the Vij Decimal Hour: score 1/10 (for point 7).I thank you, Karl - sir: for granting me at least ONE point. And, honestly: I am not discouraged since I could never be a topper (for not having any formal academic studies, in schools/colleges). I have been HARD selling my product, or rather distributing it for FREE. I have not examined the site referred in your mail: "Decimal Time Links" : http://www.decimaltime.org/links.html dated 20031128; but I do see reflection of my earlier contributions protected under 'Copyright provisions' and Beren convention - to which India as a country, is signatory.
I invite suggestions to improve, make modifications where 'my thought' has not reached; to plug any BLACK HOLES.
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20031129/08:21 AM(IST)
Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda.
*****The New Calendar Rhyme*****
Thirty days in July, September:
April, June, November, December;
All the rest have thirty-one; accepting February alone:
Which hath but twenty-nine, to be (in) fine;
Till leap year gives the whole week READY:
Is it not time to MODIFY or change to make it perennial, Oh Daddy!
And make the calendar work with Leap Week Rule! ***** ***** ***** *****
From: "Palmen, KEV (Karl)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Benefits of Vij Decimal Hour RE: Easiest, Surest and Cheapest Re: ...
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:55:29 -0000
Dear Brij and Calendar People
Thank you Brij for your reply. I can find just one benefit out of the 10 alleged benefits. Brij lists. I think he pasted them from some text, that he wrote some time ago.
I asked for the benefit of using a decimal time system with 24 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour and 100 seconds in a minute, compared with the present system.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Brij Bhushan Vij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 November 2003 14:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Easiest, Surest and Cheapest Re: Decimal Time > Proposals RE: > . .. > > > Karl, sir: > ADVANTAGES > 1. Although 'Decimalization of time - by the Year, Second or > the Day' has > not found favor as a complete solution to Time & Calendar reform; this > attempt to 'Decimalize the Hours during 24-Hour Day' has the > potential to > fulfil the dream of French Academy of Sciences in: 'establishing a > measuring system which could be acceptable to the whole world';
I'm not sure whether Brij's decimal hour would fulfil the dream of the French Academy of Sciences. What are your dreams?
> 2. In Le Systeme Internationale d'Unites, there has been No > Definition for > the Nautical Kilometre to replace the Nautical Mile, which is > now provided > as: '1/100TH of One degree' of arc-angle on Earth surface.
Is a nautical Kilometre really needed? Surely a nautical Kilometre would be '1/10,000' of 90 degrees, which is close to a kilometre.
> 3. The Hour-Angle is linked to axial rotation of the Earth by > retaining the > circle or solid sphere of 360� or the 'quadrant' of 90�; and > each degree is > sub-divided into 1�x100'x100" unlike the present 1�x 60'x > 60". The distance > conversion factor = 1.11194886884 for the 'new' metre (m') or > its reciprocal > become handy tools, to re-work new values for all Derived SI-Units and > fundamental constants. In time, each degree longitudinal spin of Earth > across the SUN correspond to six & two-third (6 2/3) minute, > as against the > present four (4) minutes, to determine local time at any > place East or West > of the 'Date line or Zero longitude';
No benefit unless other units are also changed. Changing SI units is EXPENSIVE.
> 4. Horology instruments or Mechanical Clocks need only additional > 'graduations' to read decimal part of the hour by marking 25, > 50, 75 & 100 > against the present 15, 30, 45 & 60 divisions to the dial face, at > practically no cost during the transition phase, during which > period 'Clock > movements' that beat to the new time standard can be phased in;
This is NOT an advantage over the present system.
> 5. Decimalization of the degree poses no problems to student > and/or research > community who work with the mathematical tables and > trigonometric functions, > since readily available among school/college text books;
This is NOT an advantage over the present system.
> 6. Target resolution in aviation and space flights get enhanced by the > ratio: > 1�x100'x100": 1�x 60'x 60" :: 278 : 100 (i.e. > bettered to 278%);
I do not believe the choice of unit should effect this.
> 7. Instant retrieval between any two instants, past or > future, can easily be > computed to follow International Organization for Standardization > standard ISO 8601:2000 on All Numeric Descending Order form > for writing > 'calendar dates' and Time of the Day as: > Era -Year -Week Number - Day Number T Hour -Decimal > Minutes -Decimal > Seconds (Week Day)
I can see a small benefit in working out time intervals less than a day but more the 59 seconds.
> 8. Blank Days or the discontinuity in the 'Sabbath Cycle' - > the stumbling > block for any 'Calendar Reform' is overcome to remove > ambiguity about Leap > Day adjustment, by counting five years with 52-weeks and all > years divisible > by six to have an added 53rd week as 'Leap Week of the Year', > according to > Leap Week Rule, making the calendar to almost 'zero defect';
Not relevant.
> 9. Decimalization of time of the Day/Hour harmonizes time-n-distance > interchange for application in astronomical computations to > Sun - Moon - > Earth in determination of Eclipses or other inter-calary needs; and
Does any other calendar person understand this?
> 10. Implication of changed interval for 'time and length > units' need not > cause any scare among scientists/ research scholars or other economic > evaluators in the fields of Physics, Mathematics, Astronomy, Space and > Navigation etc., especially when ready to directly apply > 'conversion factors > or their reciprocals' need only review/examination
This is NOT an advantage over the present system.
Selling the Vij Decimal Hour: score 1/10 (for point 7).
Does any other calendar person want to buy this decimal hour even if its going cheap?
Karl
06(05(05
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