On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:33:49  
 Carl Orvil Sorenson wrote:
>...
>Marcus, why on Earth should someone be obligated to give you information if you
>are not willing to help pay for the cost of gathering and distributing the
>information?

???????????

For crying out loud, Carl.  WHO said that someone would be **'OBLIGATED'** to give me 
information???  Certainly NOT ME, sir!!!  :-(

I challenge you or anyone else to show that I said that!  Please, p-l-e-a-s-e do NOT 
put words in my mouth I've NEVER spoken, first of all!

One other thing, why on earth would that HAVE to be tied to *anyone* paying USMA's 
dues or not???  This forum was a *public* forum, sir, for starters!  If the USMA 
organization had a claim or exclusivity on this event, then, fine, your observation 
could probably have some merit.  Therefore, please review what you say before you 
attempt to link things the way you did, *please*.  Thank you.

>  Your insistence on having things your way seemed very childish and
>whiney to me and probably a number of others.
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@#  What 'insistence' of 'having my way' do you refer to, sir???  I 
invite you to reread what I wrote instead of making such outrageous accusations of my 
being 'childish', 'whiney' or other less kosher labels!

For crying out loud.  All I did was complain about what I perceived to be, first of 
all, useless information (i.e. actually *LACK* thereof).  Secondly, my point was I was 
expecting some ****courtesy**** from people to ***share*** information, sir!  NOT 
obligation, NOT imposition, NOT having my way, or anything like that!

You have totally, utterly, absolutely, completely, distorted what I said and 
"complained" about!

Lastly, I don't go around making such accusations on people in such clearly 
non-complimentary way!!!  Therefore, YES, I'm very disappointed and hurt that you 
would be uttering such opinions on me (as much as you evidently must be respected and 
have the right to utter them.  Every citizen has the right to an opinion and express 
it anywhere.  However, by golly, at least be careful before you do so, lest you hurt 
people unnecessarily and be judgmental!  Please!?...)

I'm sorry for the others who got caught in this rant of mine.  But if there is 
something I have close to zero tolerance on is lack of a minimum of courtesy and 
calling names!  I don't do this to ANYONE here and NEVER will!  I think this group is 
mature enough that this sort of incident would never occur, but it's evidently clear I 
was mistaken!!  :-(.......

Anyways.  I just pray and hope that this was a huge misunderstanding on your part, 
otherwise, I'm sorry, but I have nothing else to say to you until you show some 
consideration next time.

Once again, sorry about all this, but I'm really fuming now.  Perhaps I should cool 
down a bit and come back later...  Alas.

Have a nice day, though (and yes, I mean it!).

Oh, yes, lest I forget (my last comment on your last sentence below follows)
>...
>Marcus, if you still think that free information is a right, I suggest you read
>about the economic concept of a "public good."
>...
Nobody talked about this being a *right* (again a terrible distortion of what I tried 
to say.  Where did I EVER state that this would be a right, eh???).  All I was 
expecting to see was some courtesy for sharing of information.  Not that it would be 
an *obligation*, but just that, courtesy.  In the name of the cause.  I NEVER hold 
back any info from ANYONE here and NEVER will, even if I had to pay 1 million dollars 
for it!  But, oh, well, fine, let it be.

Finally, as for 'public good' I really have absolutely NO idea what you mean, 
therefore I'll refrain from commenting, lest I misinterpret you and put more fire on 
these flames...

Marcus


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