I think that an interesting corollary to this discussion would be to make the 
following experiment.

Select a pool of temperature couples, like 17-18, 9-10, 22-23, etc

Choose a sample of people and place them, one by one, in these two rooms for a minimum 
period (say, 3 minutes).  I mean, get someone put him/her in room 1 where it's 17, 
then, place him/her in room 2 where it's 18 (evidently, after a period of a few 
minutes to "unclimatize" the individual to render his/her judgment as unbiased as 
possible).  Then ask the question, which room was warmer/colder.

I'd like to propose that regardless of sex, age, etc, the answer to this experiment 
may indicate that a majority may not be able to tell the difference *conclusively*!

But repeat the experiment with a 2-degree C interval and I'm convinced people *now* 
would be able to confidently claim one way or another.

(NOTE: it goes without saying that the humidity parameter would have to be selected so 
as to render this variable irrelevant to the experiment, i.e. non-influential)

Again, a different side of the same coin, so to speak, I guess...

Marcus

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:40:45  
 Terry Simpson wrote:
>> Of John S. Ward
>>Just because you can't feel the difference doesn't mean others don't.
>
>I think it is entirely possible that the median JND for room temperature is
>less than one degree Celsius. The following is not an argument against that
>possibility, but I think it is still relevant.......
>
>
>A thermostat displays a single temperature to the user (e.g. 22 degrees
>Celsius), but it actually measures two temperatures. The lower temperature
>turns the heating on, the upper turns it off.
>
>I would be surprised if domestic room temperatures are maintained to +/- 0.5
>degree Fahrenheit of the thermostat setting.
>
>If there are two installations and one produces actual room temperatures
>over a 3 degree range (20.5 to 23.5) and another produces a 1 degree range
>(21.5 to 22.5), then our perception of comfort will be different. At any
>given setting, we are more likely to be dissatisfied with the upper or lower
>temperatures produced by wider range installation. Consequently we will want
>to make smaller adjustments. Thus experience with a thermostat in a
>particular installation is not necessarily a good indication of JND.
>
>


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