In "the whole nine yards," I believe it's a reference to nine cubic yards
(not to linear yards) -- the capacity of one of the standard dumpsters
(skips if you speak British English). Therefore, a conversion to meters
makes no sense.

A ten-foot pole has a certain utility that a 10 meter pole (enormously long)
would not have. I guess you could say 3 meter pole (which is very close to
ten feet). However, again, it's a historical thing and it's better to let it
eventually die out than to try to use a metric approximation. Simply state,
the term "three meter pole" doesn't exist in common usage, even in a metric
country.

If you can come up with new expressions that will be memorable, there's some
point to it. A straight conversion (even adjusted to an appropriate
approximation) has no history and won't go anywhere.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]



>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of MightyChimp
>Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 18:23
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Subject: [USMA:30011] RE: the metric system and jokes
>
>
>I got the same feeling when I read it too.  I felt he was more upset with
>the "exactness" of conversion that some people seem to do.  A thousand yard
>stare could just as well been a 1000 m stare and not lost a hint of the
>meaning.  At least he knew that the 1 mile per gallon was the US gallon and
>converted it correctly.  He could have assumed it was the old imperial
>gallon and said it was equal to 282 L/100 km.
>
>Funny how 100 m is always converted to 100 yards in the English language
>press but 100 yards becomes 90 m in other languages.
>
>"the whole nine yards."  There is and probably never will be a metric
>equivalent of the latter.
>
>What about "the whole 10 m"?
>
>But to say you wouldn't touch something with a 3.05-metre pole - that's a
>whole different league (5.56 kilometres).
>
>I would say a 10 m pole, and I usually do.  As for league, I don't think it
>is a length unit in this application but more in tune with a sports league
>or a team.
>
>
>Euric
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, 2004-05-30 18:34
>Subject: [USMA:30010] RE: the metric system and jokes
>
>
>> As far as I can see, the writer is merely satirizing the
>compulsive act of
>> conversion. I don't interpret his article as a criticism of metric usage
>as
>> such (just of the use of conversion where it isn't even required).
>>
>> His criticism is of any arbitrary and unnecessary conversion, including
>that
>> of currency.
>>
>> It's obviously silly to convert figures of speech, such as "in for a
>penny,
>> in for a pound" (where, unfortunately, he used the avoirdupois pound,
>rather
>> than the currency) and  In time, it will probably die out
>> and be replace with more contemporary expressions. Outside the
>metrication
>> arena, for example, "half a bale shy of a load" (as a description of
>someone
>> who isn't quite with it, mentally) has morphed into things like "a few
>fries
>> short of a Happy Meal." Urban people aren't familiar with bales
>of hay, so
>> are more likely to understand the latter.
>>
>> Bill Potts, CMS
>> Roseville, CA
>> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Behalf Of Paul Trusten
>> >Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 14:37
>> >To: U.S. Metric Association
>> >Subject: [USMA:30009] the metric system and jokes
>> >
>> >
>> >IMHO, a huge ongoing PR problem with metric in the United States
>> >and also in
>> >metricating countries is its being the butt of jokes, usually having to
>do
>> >with conversion between systems, and not usually involving the
>use of the
>> >metric system alone. Here's a current classic from Australia:
>> >
>> >http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/30/1085855438557.html
>> >
>> >I'd love to hear some discussion about this. I think this is a very
>> >important metric issue! Thanks.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
>> >3609 Caldera Blvd., Apt. 122
>> >Midland TX 79707-2872 USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

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