Dear Bill, Terry, and All, I suspect that the 'typographical quotes' occur when I import material from Microsoft Word. Unfortunately this is an intermittent behaviour. Let me explain:
Whenever I upgrade Microsoft Office, I have to then go through a step by step procedure to alter the defaults away from Microsoft's prejudgements about the setting I will use. 1 I have to alter page layout to A4. 2 I have to alter all tab spacings. 3 I have to alter all margins on all types of documents. 5 I have to alter time and date settings to international formats, and, 6 I have to alter the settings that cause the 'typographical quotes'. And sometimes, I forget. I have now reset MS Word settings � again � and here are some test items. Imported from Microsoft Word 'This is "test" to see how this works'. Typed directly into this posting 'This is a "test" to see how this works'. I would appreciate your response. Cheers, Pat Naughtin Geelong, Australia -- on 2004-07-13 11.00, Bill Potts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pat: > > Could you please stop using typographical quotes. Your opening quotes are > coming out as an OE diphthong and your closing quotes are coming out as a > superscripted 1. > > If you're using MS Word to create your message, you should note that you can > turn off the feature that turns plain quotes into typographical quotes. > > I wonder if others are experiencing the same problem with Pat's messages. > (I'm using Outlook 2000.) Note that I use the same encoding Pat does > (Western European ISO -- ISO-8859-1) -- although incoming messages default > to whatever code the sender is using, anyway. > > Bill Potts, CMS > Roseville, CA > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of Pat Naughtin >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 16:49 >> To: U.S. Metric Association >> Subject: [USMA:30394] New UKMA initiative Clauses 6.18 to 6.20 >> >> >> Dear Chris, >> >> In the light of your remarks on pages 39 and 40 (Clauses 6.18 to 6.20) of >> your report, 'A very British mess', you might find these observations >> interesting. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pat Naughtin >> Geelong, Australia >> >> >> In Australia, the building industry chose millimetres as their small unit. >> The actual statement in the pamphlet, �Metric Information � for >> Building and >> Construction Workers� (October 1973), said: >> >> �(1) Distances for transport will be measured in kilometres (km) >> 1�km = 1�000 m = about 5/8 mile >> >> �(2) The centimetre will be used in the clothing industry. It is only 10 >> times 1�mm and to avoid confusion it will not be used in building. >> >> �N.B. DON�T use a tape or rule marked in both millimetres and feet and >> inches and never use one marked in centimetres�. >> >> >> The words, 'will not be used in building', were printed in bold letters in >> the original document. >> >> With this one decision, the Metric Conversion Board removed the >> need for all >> vulgar fractions (and all calculations involving vulgar fractions) and all >> decimal fractions (and all calculations involving decimal fractions) on any >> building site. I believe that this single decision was largely instrumental >> in allowing the Australian building industry to make a smooth and >> relatively >> rapid transition to metrication. In my own personal experience, for most >> builders metrication was largely completed by 1976. >> >> In the book, �Metrication in Australia�, Kevin Wilks says that (by 1982): >> >> �Building regulations in all States had been metric for many years. All >> plans and specifications, development applications, building materials and >> promotional literature for project homes were metric, although a >> few project >> builders, selling principally to retired people, saw some advantage in >> giving imperial equivalents�. >> >> In comparison, the clothing industry, which chose to use centimetres, is >> still struggling with their metrication transition, even after more than 30 >> years. >> >> I have worked extensively in both the Australian building and textile >> industries and I have personally seen the dramatic differences between the >> two metric conversion processes. >> >> My conclusion is that the use of millimetres leads to a more rapid and >> smooth conversion than does the use of centimetres. >> >> ** >> >> Occupations and millimetres >> >> In a recent study that I did on occupations in Australia, I noted that for >> most job descriptions, millimetres were used as the basic small measure. >> Here is my analysis of a list of occupations that I obtained from the >> Australian Bureau of Statistics: >> >> 90 occupations � millimetre users >> Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Avionics), Aircraft Maintenance Engineer >> (Mechanical), Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Structures), Automotive >> Electrician, Binder and Finisher, Blacksmith, Boat Builder and Repairer, >> Bricklayer, Broadcast Transmitter Operator, Business Machine Mechanic, >> Cabinetmaker, Cable Jointer, Carpenter, Carpenter and Joiner, >> Communications >> Linesperson, Computing Support Technician, Dental Technician, Drainer, >> Electrical Engineering Technician, Electrical Powerline Tradesperson, >> Electrician (Special Class), Electronic Engineering Technician, Electronic >> Equipment Tradesperson, Electronic Instrument Tradesperson (Special Class), >> Electroplater, Engraver, Farrier, Fibrous Plasterer, Fitter, Flat Glass >> Tradesperson, Floor Finisher, Furniture Finisher, Furniture Upholsterer, >> Gasfitter, Gem Cuter and Polisher, General Communications Tradesperson, >> General Electrician, General Electronic Instrument Tradesperson, General >> Fabrication Engineering Tradesperson, General Mechanical Engineering >> Tradesperson, General Plumber, Glass Blower, Graphic Pre-Press >> Tradesperson, >> Greenkeeper, Gunsmith, Jeweller, Joiner, Leather Goods Maker, Lift >> Mechanic, >> Locksmith, Mechanical Engineering Technician, Mechanical Services and >> Airconditioning Plumber, Medical Grade Shoemaker, Metal Casting >> Tradesperson, Metal Fabricator (Boilermaker), Metal Machinist >> (First Class), >> Metal Polisher, Motor Mechanic, Optical Mechanic, Painter and Decorator, >> Panel Beater, Patternmaker-Grader (Clothing), Piano maker, Piano Tune, >> Precision Instrument Maker and Repairer, Pressure Welder, Printing >> Machinist, Refrigeration and Airconditioning Mechanic, Roof Plumber, Roof >> Slater and Tiler, Saw Maker and Repairer, Screen Printer, Small Offset >> Printer, Sheetmetal Worker (First Class), Shipwright, Shoemaker, >> Signwriter, >> Small Offset Printer, Solid Plasterer, Stonemason, Textile, Clothing or >> Footwear Mechanic, Toolmaker, Upholsterers and Bedding Tradespersons, >> Vehicle Body Maker, Vehicle Painter, Vehicle Trimmer, Wall and Floor Tiler, >> Watch and Clock Maker and Repairer, Welder (First Class), Wood >> Tradesperson, >> and Wood Turner. >> >> 10 occupations � centimetre and inches users >> Apparel Cutter, Baker, Chef, Chef � Head Chef, Cook, Dressmaker, General >> Clothing Tradesperson, Pastry Cook, Picture Framer, and Tailor. >> >> 7 occupations � centimetre, feet and inches users >> Canvas Goods Maker, General Gardener, Head Gardener, Landscape Gardener, >> Nurseryperson, Sail Maker, Tree Surgeon >> >> 7 occupations where length measures are relatively unimportant >> Butcher, Buttermaker or Cheesemaker, Confectioner, Hairdresser, Smallgoods >> Maker Supervisor, Hairdressers Supervisor, and Meat Tradespersons. >> >> In summary >> >> millimetres 90 occupations = 78.9 % >> centimetres and inches 10 occupations = 8.8 % >> centimetres, feet, and inches 7 occupations = 6.1 % >> Few length measures 7 occupations = 6.1 % >> Total 114 occupations = 100 % >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pat Naughtin LCAMS >> Geelong, Australia >> >> Pat Naughtin is the editor of the free online newsletter, 'Metrication >> matters'. 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