--- Jim Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> At 3 09 04, 07:49 AM, David King wrote:
...
> Your understanding of 501(c)3 organizations is the
> same as mine. However, 
> your question presumes that the most valuable thing
> the USMA could do is 
> lobby Congress...
> While lobbying Congress could be beneficial..., an
organization
> like the USMA doesn't 
> have a fraction of the resources of a single large
> company that wants to 
> fight metric, and I think would be largely throwing
> money away in any 
> direct lobbying effort.
> 
> I have some experience in this area...
> 
> This points out the reason that large institutions
...spend MILLIONS of dollars lobbying
> -- that is the kind of 
> money necessary to have any impact via such a
> method.
>
Jim seems to bring an interesting and perhaps quite
valid point.  IF this is the kind of situation that
exists in the US when it comes to lobbying then one
more reason why we should just forget about the whole
thing.

It's very unfortunate and a reality check (or shock!)
to most of us to recognize that it's indeed ONLY
ELITES who have any significant say on matters that
require changes of this magnitude.  Where is the hope,
eh?  If all we're left with is "market forces" or the
good will of a few, once again, NOTHING WILL EVER
*MEANINGFULLY* HAPPEN in this area!

Now as for the paragraph below (and more), please see
my input right after it.
 
> The value of the USMA... is in providing a
> forum for discussion,

True, no argument here.  BUT how *effective* can this
be (yes, Jim, I'm back to the old old discussion about
how useful to the issue of *metrication* USMA can ever
be!)
 
> monitoring and reporting metrication progress at
> private, federal, and 
> state levels, providing a range of educational
> materials, helping guide 
> companies that are trying to metricate,
> participating in various 
> governmental and private forums regarding
> metrication (e.g., FPLA 
> meetings), providing a "focal point" for metric
> resources via the web page, 
> and so forth.
>
Again, all true stuff.  Then what???
 
> What frustrates me with the USMA is the same thing
> that frustrates me with 
> in my Libertarian activities: there are lots of
> people out there motivated 
> enough to complain that things should change, but
> only a fraction of them 
> are willing to put their own time and money on the
> line.
>
Aside from the fact that many of us do, the truth is
it's simply NOT ENOUGH that we continue 'putting...
time and money on the line' if we work *ALONE*!

Now, having said the above here is the thing.  Then
what?  How can one really make ANY impact on something
that has so far reaching consequences like
metrication?  An issue that impacts the WHOLE society
and a significant part of economic activities?  How
can one find true solutions that MUST involve
*cooperative/collective effort*?

These are million-dollar questions?  Which brings us
to the subject of lobbying.

Many of us are tired of hearing encouraging
testimonies of ordinary people who even welcome the
whole idea thing.  It's nice to hear people "all for
it".  Yet, again, the very nagging question: THEN
WHAT???  Where does one go from here?

True, things like Christianism did turn the world
upside down by "one soul at a time", but we're talking
*religion* here, NOT some monumental scientific
endeavor that simply cannot be implemented without the
*collective*!

What I mean is simple, so what, even if the
overwhelming majority ends up agreeing, ok metric is
the way to go, then what?  How can one pull this one
off?  One must understand that it's simply unworkable
for ONE to simply go ahead and 'put their money where
their mouth is and do it'!  Suffice it for one to see
the dilemma with the DOT fiasco.  Honestly, deep
inside how can one blame Caltrans and others to
backpedal after all?  I know... this is tough for me
to do, but we're faced with an idealistic side
fighting the realistic one.

Bottom line?  Well...  Without *collective*
initiatives metrication will NOT work, *P-E-R-I-O-D*! 
Now, if someone can come up with another strategy
other than 'lobbying' to fulfill such critical
requirement I'm all ears!

Till then we'll continue hearing seemingly
contradictory statements of folks who on one side are
all for it, but who on the other hand cannot support
the very things that would make it happen; i.e. a real
catch 22 situation...

Marcus

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