Derek, Karl list sirs:
.....Genesis does this on the basis of forming 6/7 "created" months/days,
so in other words everything else is calculated and revolves around this
purpose in cyclic motions with the sun, moon etc maintaining this "earthly"
period or duration of 6~7 days. This gives the calendar a purpose which is
beneficial to human/creature needs as in "seasons" etc rather than simply
measuring time to minimise the loss of time which on its own achieves
nothing.....
This would add credence and viability to the concept of the
mysteries possible power surrounding the dark/mass and black holes.....
My persuit in developing SEVERAL formats for usable calendar brings me to
the crux that it is the SIDEREAL Day and 'Sidreal Year' that must be the
objectives of man on Earth to get tuned with. The Tropical Year had been
chosen due to regular flooding of Nile or the locale of habitats where man
settled; and astronomy followed suit adding to his tools to forecast events
and become LAND MARKS - Kilo-shilas (for Mile Stone) as I called.
First Point of Aries can be checked, as I have attempted to draw attention
by skipping ONE Brahaspati Leap Week (or day) *depending on the minimum
cycle - between 75-years to 90-years*.
My 364-day format of calendar can thus be usefully employed for 128-year
cycle (using Leap Day or Leap Weeks): AND the interval for time unit,
Sidereal Second (ss) derived from "1/240000th of Sidereal Day or
1/87898125th of 'Sidereal Year' corrected to nearest whole number of
*radiations of Cs-133 - defining the time unit *second, s*". Please see:
http://www.brijvij.com/clockface-n-earth.doc and
http://www.brijvij.com/Brij.d-sec.sd.doc
The need to link this 'time unit'with that for *length unit (m')* as:
1/10^5th of arcAngle pi/180 (i.e. ONE degree) is automatic.
[Note: These definitions for Time unit (sd or ss) and Lenght unit (m') only
need co-ordination].
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij
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From: "derek winder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Sidereal Days & Sidereal Years Re: Octaeteris
Spreadsheet
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 09:39:09 +0100
Brij,
I can appreciate the fact that trying to minimise loss in time is a admiral
and a somewhat necessary approach to calendar workings for modern day
technical measurements etc, however surely it would be better and simpler
to decide on what duration or differential of time is actually wanted or
required as in the days and months etc. Genesis does this on the basis of
forming 6/7 "created" months/days, so in other words everything else is
calculated and revolves around this purpose in cyclic motions with the sun,
moon etc maintaining this "earthly" period or duration of 6~7 days. This
gives the calendar a purpose which is beneficial to human/creature needs as
in "seasons" etc rather than simply measuring time to minimise the loss of
time which on its own achieves nothing. To create this process it is
therefore necessary to form a minimum "balance" which optimises both
energy, time,space and mass based on need, and this is why (.5) as a metric
dot measure works best as seen in the geometrical Image of genesis.
As this is an Image in the same way as we see the world around us, it
therefore requires clarity and definition as a picture based on a fact,
which is why its based on our 9 planets and 1 sun using the values 3 and 9
which are the minimum and maximum dot points required to form a reasonable
image shape (aesthetically pleasing) based on the path of the moon which
forms the division between night measure (sun) and day (moon) with the
earth bridging the gap in "celestial" form. It is thought by some scientist
and by me.! that the sun is actual a dense Dark star which is glowing or
radiating some form of low intensity or infrared waveform heat due to
movement or friction or possibly atomic nuclear "fusion" power etc, and
therefore due to expansion with this fusion it creates light and therefore
luminance lighting up the solar system and this is why the genesis calendar
of Enoch is called the "luminaries".
This is because everything is lit by what we call the sun when actually its
a dark dense star as can be seen in the centre of the genesis core, its the
"fusion" which makes it glow and so the whole system becomes "illuminated"
as in the cycle day of the 128/9 "blot". This again is why the story tells
us the day is lit by the sun and the night illuminated by the moon all as
seen from the "celestial" earth having a balance of 6~7 =13 signs/months.
This means the days and the months are exactly the same just as the story
says because they are both part of the same formula and in year terms its
364~5. which is why it uses the (.5) and/or 5 because it uses a twin cycle
of 2 creating a third 3 (2+3)=5 and (2*3)=6, one (1) day/month is always
in use as in the 7th cycle/day being split by "fusion" and expanded into a
364~4 segments/sectors of a 360 degrees circle "image" forming further
changing arc/angles images etc.
So genesis is a MONTHLY "seasonal" calendar forming days and years, based
on the "invisible" presence and power of a dark STAR.!.
This would add credence and viability to the concept of the mysteries
possible power surrounding the dark/mass and black holes etc in space
referred to in ancient times as "the waters" on earth to which offerings
where made because it was in darkness and depth and "fear" a reflection of
the heavens without the light.Maby they thought by giving offerering it
would provide energy and kindle the spark of life into it like putting
wood or coal on a slow red buring fire and so it would burn more brightly
and give off the most needed and wanted light especialy in the dark winter
MONTHS.!
Derek
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Subject: Using Sidereal Days & Sidereal Years Re: Octaeteris Spreadsheet
Karl, CC sirs:
The 1040-year cycle is remarkably accurate and already occurs on my
original spreadsheet
http://www.the-light.com/cal/Lunisolar4.html
.....1040 7 365.24231 29.5305916
In my mail of Friday, May 19, 2006 4:41 PM, I presented my calculations
for 3150-years & 1008-year cycles. In the same link, I show the competence
of 1040-year cycle which can be made use of for The Civil World Calendar
Using Leap weeks with Sidereal Days & Sidereal Years.
1040-years =380906.6580736514136 ds =(54415 Ws). These can be arranged in
[54415 - (1040*52) =335 BLWks using div.3 i.e. SKIP *One BLWk once every
87th -years* to account 347-335=12 'Skipped BLWks'. The difference is
adjusted by an EXTRA *ratio Tithi of value 138W/965* during 520th &
1040th - years, for seasonal alignments. Mean Year = 366.255769231 ds.
This over-accounts 8hs.2560 over this period.
It does surprise me that I have yet to UNDERSTAND the reason for NOT
settling for a more POSITIVE approach that is *for more astronomical
approach in using Sidereal Year/Day* but restricting the discussions and
investigation to 'disputed duration of the Tropical Year with respect to
START of Year'.
Can someone on Calndr-L or other lists argue in favour of *which duration
of the TROPICAL year is more acceptable* over the time interval of
Sidereal Year for CIVIL CALENDAR, as I suggest?
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij
(Wednesday, Kali 5107-W06-03)/265+D-146 (Thursday, 2006 May
25H23:33(decimal) ET
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Jul:30; Aug:31; Sep:30; Oct:31; Nov:30; Dec:30
(365th day of Year is World Day)
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From: "Palmen, KEV (Karl)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
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Subject: Re: Octaeteris Spreadsheet
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:40:17 +0100
Dear Lance and Calendar People
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Sent: 23 May 2006 17:44
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Subject: Re: Octaeteris Spreadsheet
RE:
> One thing that seems to be amazing about the
> Octaeteris is whenever it is corrected by one month
> to make the mean year accurate, the cycle has close
> to a whole number of days, hence the calendar be
> replaced by a schematic calendar.
Lance replies:
There seems to be a strong tendency for an
octaeteris-based calendar to evolve into a schematic
calendar, as Karl notes. Whether this ever occurred
historically is moot, but the structural tendency is
there.
KARL SAYS:
This applies only to an even number of Octaeterises (multiple of 16
years).
You get a better approximation to a whole number of days, if you also
correct Octaeteris by occasionally dropping a month. Such a cycle then
has a very good approximation to a whole number of days (provided it has
an even number of Octaeterises).
Furthermore, in all such cases, a schematic calendar can constructed to
be the same as Lance's A-S calendar but with three days added every 16
years (two octaeterises) and the Octaeteris occasionally corrected by
dropping a 29-day month. This dropping of the 29-day month corrects both
the Octaeteris and the lunar cycle mentioned by Simon Cassidy (with a
mean month 29 + 1/2 + 1/66 days).
I've constructed a spreadsheet for such calendars and have asked Victor
to put it up. All one needs to do is copy a row then set the number of
16-year cycles in the calendar cycle and the number of months dropped.
Here are some of these cycles
Years Dropped Mths Mean Year Mean Month
160 1 365.25625 29.5305710 Sidereal year
144 1 365.23611 29.5306008
304 2 365.24671 29.5305851 equiv to Hipparchic cycle
448 3 365.24330 29.5305901
592 4 365.24155 29.5305927
1040 7 365.24231 29.5305916
The 1040-year cycle is remarkably accurate and already occurs on my
original spreadsheet
http://www.the-light.com/cal/Lunisolar4.html
at
http://www.the-light.com/cal/kp_Lunisolar_xls.html
Also the 464-year cycle with 3 dropped months has a mean year of exactly
365.25 days.
I'd agree that its a moot point whether any of these cycles were actually
used, but it might have been known that correcting the Octaeteris by
removing a 29-day month from a schematic calendar with a 2923.5 day mean
Octaeteris would correct both the months and the years.
Such a schematic calendar could be the same as Lance's A-S calendar,
(which has a basic year of 354 days and a leap month of 30 days added to
the 3rd, 6th and 8th year of an 8-year cycle) but with an extra day added
to the 1st and 5th year of each 8-year cycle and in every 16th year the
leap month has 29 days instead of the usual 30 days. It is this 29-day
leap month that is dropped when the Octaeteris is corrected.
The number of days in the years would thus be:
355, 354, 384, 354, 355, 384, 354, 384,
355, 354, 384, 354, 355, 384, 354, 383
and so on every 16 years, except when the 29-day leap month is dropped.
Then the 383-day year has 354 days.
Karl
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