From: "Stephen Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Stephen Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
CC: "USMA" <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:37394] People in glass houses.
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:41:56 +0100
This from the person who wasn't averse from taking my email address from
the USMA listserv in order to send to Neil Herron and telling him what I
had said on this board.
After receiving the email copied from the USMA listserv, Mr Herron sent me
unsolicited emails attacking me and what I had said. I don't recall giving
Stephen Humphreys permission to pass on what I had said on this board. I
had the naive belief that what I had said was for this board only. Mr
Humphreys thought otherwise, it seems.
If Daniel/Euric/Kilopascal/Bernard or whoever you're referring to have
indeed done this, then it is wrong, but, knowing your little antics in the
past, excuse me if I take a huge belly laugh at your phoney moral outrage.
You're a hypocrite, Steve, pure and simple.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: [USMA:37391] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard
> Out of interest - may I ask why you have fabricated an email to look
like
> it's from me then posted it to the USMA listserv? We call that bad
> "netiquette" (and fraud)
>
> And if you are "new to this" how come you know so much history about me,
> "daniel", discussion boards, etc? Sounds odd that you appear to say
that
> you "stumbled across" the BWMA site,this site, and me yet you know so
much
> history about all three.
>
> Considering you share the same opinion about dollar collapse and, more
> recently, the idea that crop circles are indeed made by aliens from
> outer-space (see BWMA board for details) plus other strange 'minority
> causes' you share with daniel/euric/kilopascal/etc this seems a shocking
> coincidence considering the number of participants on the USMA site and
the
> BWMA site. Please credit the people on this board and on the BWMA board
> with a little more common sense (as you already know a "USMA-er" who
posts
> to the BWMA site is already humored by your attempts at your Doctor-Who
> style regeneration).
>
> I'm going to back off now and let you clutter this moderately quiet
board
> with stuff ramping up to the "imperial users are stupid and need to be
> forced..." material that "obv makes people think about moving to metric
if
> they haven't yet".
>
> Maybe you can start with the stuff about oil being priced in euros?
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [USMA:37378] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard
> >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:37:13 -0700
> >
> >Its a shame that a board with so few messages is becoming cluttered by
> >paranoia.
> >Last time-
> >
> >On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:39:23 +0000, "Stephen Humphreys"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > lol
> > >
> > > "Not this again"
> > >
> > > Hardly a way to introduce yourself on a board as a 'newbie' (ie. how
> > > would
> > > you know whether this was 'again'? eh? duuuuh!)
> >Thank you for the warm reception.
> >For the final and last time- everywhere I've run into you this same
wild
> >notion is following closely on the heels. I don't even post at the
same
> >hours and in the same manner of this daniel guy.
> >What should I expect you can't even get my name right! You keep
calling
> >me "Bertrand" on other boards.
> >
> > >
> > > Entertain me - do your best to discredit the metric system - my
little
> > > mission is to see how long it takes me to get you banned!
> >
> >A worthy (if it weren't so strange) mission indeed!
> >
> >Stephen- what exactly is your stance on metrication? From what I
gather
> >you donate to anti-metric groups, yet post here. You also say that
> >Britain is "just right or a little too much (metric)" with its slapdash
> >metrication.
> >A cursory search yielded:
> >
> >"Ooh, there's another donation to the BWMA!"
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwma/message/2211
> >"Tony - is there any way of making donations to "ARM"?"
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwma/message/2975
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> > > >Subject: [USMA:37378] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard
> > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:18:05 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Not this again...
> > > >LOL- Hitting the pints early Steve? Why are you convinced that I
am
> > > >this "daniel" guy? Everytime i've posted there you accuse me of
either
> > > >being "daniel" or "eric". Why is it so hard to believe there are
other
> > > >pro-mets out there posting in forums? I stumbled onto the BWMA,
and
> > > >though I may post rather strong views, this must all be kept in
> >context.
> > > > The BWMA's sole mission is to undermine metrication efforts in
both
> >the
> > > >UK and US.
> > > >Can somebody tell me why hes convinced every new measurements
> >discussion
> > > >poster is "daniel", or theres some conspiracy against him?
> > > >Furthermore, you have this bizarre paranoia that every (even
American)
> > > >pro-met is trying to take away your choice or force you to adopt EU
> > > >policy.
> > > >Relax mate and enjoy the discussions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >/
> > > >On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:55:35 +0000, "Stephen Humphreys"
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > > > New post name. Not new poster
> > > > >
> > > > > You are Daniel (or 'euric', or 'kilopascal', or 'daniel', or
etc)
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out "Bernard Rachtmann's" posts on the bwma site to see
the
> >usual
> > > > > 'dollar collapse' and assortment of full-on anti-american
sentiment
> > > > > whilst
> > > > > using metric as the excuse for that anti-americanism. Other
posters
> >-
> > > >be
> > > > > aware for more posts that end up damaging the cause of metric
with
> > > > > bizzare
> > > > > notions about the UK and irrelevent information about how
economies
> > > >work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be fooled, folks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> > > > > >Subject: [USMA:37370] Re: Interesting document on the NIST
metric
> >page
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:34:42 -0700
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi, new poster here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In a nutshell I can't see it happening...
> > > > > >I suspect a compromise will ultimately be struck. Conversely,
I am
> >not
> > > > > >surprised that the FPLA hasn't been amended....yet. Though I'm
not
> > > > > >well-versed on the issue, its clear both sides would lose if
> >neither
> > > > > >yielded. Also if only one were to yield there would still be
trade
> > > > > >dilemas. My guess is that this particular EU directive will be
> > > > > >suspended indefinitely, while FPLA will be amended.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Lets be honest here, many American consumers are familiar with
> >certain
> > > > > >inch-pound sizes (I can't see milk exclusively marked "3.79 L."
> >with no
> > > > > >mention of gallon by 2010, etc), and should there be extras or
a
> > > > > >packaging run duplicated, they'll want the potential market
still
> >open.
> > > > > >Now, a EU-made product thats all metric would need only slap a
> >sticker
> > > > > >on for US sales, rather than tear off or marker out the
contents.
> > > > > >Besides, doesn't this directive also ban inch/pound from
> > > >advertisements,
> > > > > >brochures and even websites? This realistically would cause
too
> >much
> > > > > >commotion in commerce.
> > > > > >Perhaps they haven't amended it yet so it could be used as a
> >potential
> > > > > >bargaining chip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:10:24 -0600, "Mike Millet"
> > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > > > > > I was looking through the NIST metric page for any updated
> > > >information
> > > > > >on
> > > > > > > amending the FPLA and found this PDF which was a business
alert
> > > >released
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > the NIST a couple months back..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/Metric/upload/Business_Alert_2010.pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The composer of the document seems to not be for or against
> >metric
> > > > > > > transition but the document did a good job of summarizing
the
> > > >relevant
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I found it shocking that several organizations within the EU
are
> > > > > >actually
> > > > > > > pressuring the EU to continue the use of dual labelling
simply
> > > >because
> > > > > >US
> > > > > > > companies haven't switched, but I'm sure this deadline will
not
> >get
> > > > > > > extended
> > > > > > > once more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has there been any more relevant movement or information on
the
> > > >issue
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > anyone is aware of or is it doomed to a slow quiet death in
a
> > > > > > > congressional
> > > > > > > commitee ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?"
> > > > > >--
> > > > > > Bernard Rachtmann
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and
> > > > > > love email again
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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