Stephen Humphrey wrote: "I was wondering when you were going to add your unique brand of quality to the "debate".
You can say what you like, SteveH. You and I know the truth about what you did that you're not averse to tactics like this. I don't like them either, but I have to say, you've had it coming for a long time so please.....lay off the phoney moralising, eh? As the subject line says, this is my last word on the subject so let it lie, OK? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [USMA:37395] RE: People in glass houses. > I was wondering when you were going to add your unique brand of quality to > the "debate". > > Ok - I'm really backing off now. I don't want to be seen as flooding this > group just to defend myself against the likes of steve davies and euric. > You two may go ahead and throw insults at me (which as you can imagine "I > find really upsetting") as a way of furthering metrication. I will > contribute to "proper" debate about metrication from a UK perspective should > the discussion from a US perspective venture into metrication in the UK. As > was always my intention, and has been the case, in past discussions. > > Cheers for now, SteveH > > > >From: "Stephen Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Stephen Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> > >CC: "USMA" <[email protected]> > >Subject: [USMA:37394] People in glass houses. > >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:41:56 +0100 > > > >This from the person who wasn't averse from taking my email address from > >the USMA listserv in order to send to Neil Herron and telling him what I > >had said on this board. > > > >After receiving the email copied from the USMA listserv, Mr Herron sent me > >unsolicited emails attacking me and what I had said. I don't recall giving > >Stephen Humphreys permission to pass on what I had said on this board. I > >had the naive belief that what I had said was for this board only. Mr > >Humphreys thought otherwise, it seems. > > > >If Daniel/Euric/Kilopascal/Bernard or whoever you're referring to have > >indeed done this, then it is wrong, but, knowing your little antics in the > >past, excuse me if I take a huge belly laugh at your phoney moral outrage. > > > >You're a hypocrite, Steve, pure and simple. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:44 AM > >Subject: [USMA:37391] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard > > > > > > > Out of interest - may I ask why you have fabricated an email to look > >like > > > it's from me then posted it to the USMA listserv? We call that bad > > > "netiquette" (and fraud) > > > > > > And if you are "new to this" how come you know so much history about me, > > > "daniel", discussion boards, etc? Sounds odd that you appear to say > >that > > > you "stumbled across" the BWMA site,this site, and me yet you know so > >much > > > history about all three. > > > > > > Considering you share the same opinion about dollar collapse and, more > > > recently, the idea that crop circles are indeed made by aliens from > > > outer-space (see BWMA board for details) plus other strange 'minority > > > causes' you share with daniel/euric/kilopascal/etc this seems a shocking > > > coincidence considering the number of participants on the USMA site and > >the > > > BWMA site. Please credit the people on this board and on the BWMA board > > > with a little more common sense (as you already know a "USMA-er" who > >posts > > > to the BWMA site is already humored by your attempts at your Doctor-Who > > > style regeneration). > > > > > > I'm going to back off now and let you clutter this moderately quiet > >board > > > with stuff ramping up to the "imperial users are stupid and need to be > > > forced..." material that "obv makes people think about moving to metric > >if > > > they haven't yet". > > > > > > Maybe you can start with the stuff about oil being priced in euros? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] > > > >Subject: RE: [USMA:37378] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:37:13 -0700 > > > > > > > >Its a shame that a board with so few messages is becoming cluttered by > > > >paranoia. > > > >Last time- > > > > > > > >On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:39:23 +0000, "Stephen Humphreys" > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > "Not this again" > > > > > > > > > > Hardly a way to introduce yourself on a board as a 'newbie' (ie. how > > > > > would > > > > > you know whether this was 'again'? eh? duuuuh!) > > > >Thank you for the warm reception. > > > >For the final and last time- everywhere I've run into you this same > >wild > > > >notion is following closely on the heels. I don't even post at the > >same > > > >hours and in the same manner of this daniel guy. > > > >What should I expect you can't even get my name right! You keep > >calling > > > >me "Bertrand" on other boards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Entertain me - do your best to discredit the metric system - my > >little > > > > > mission is to see how long it takes me to get you banned! > > > > > > > >A worthy (if it weren't so strange) mission indeed! > > > > > > > >Stephen- what exactly is your stance on metrication? From what I > >gather > > > >you donate to anti-metric groups, yet post here. You also say that > > > >Britain is "just right or a little too much (metric)" with its slapdash > > > >metrication. > > > >A cursory search yielded: > > > > > > > >"Ooh, there's another donation to the BWMA!" > > > >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwma/message/2211 > > > >"Tony - is there any way of making donations to "ARM"?" > > > >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwma/message/2975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> > > > > > >Subject: [USMA:37378] Re: Daniel / Euric / kilopascal/ Bernard > > > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:18:05 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > >Not this again... > > > > > >LOL- Hitting the pints early Steve? Why are you convinced that I > >am > > > > > >this "daniel" guy? Everytime i've posted there you accuse me of > >either > > > > > >being "daniel" or "eric". Why is it so hard to believe there are > >other > > > > > >pro-mets out there posting in forums? I stumbled onto the BWMA, > >and > > > > > >though I may post rather strong views, this must all be kept in > > > >context. > > > > > > The BWMA's sole mission is to undermine metrication efforts in > >both > > > >the > > > > > >UK and US. > > > > > >Can somebody tell me why hes convinced every new measurements > > > >discussion > > > > > >poster is "daniel", or theres some conspiracy against him? > > > > > >Furthermore, you have this bizarre paranoia that every (even > >American) > > > > > >pro-met is trying to take away your choice or force you to adopt EU > > > > > >policy. > > > > > >Relax mate and enjoy the discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >/ > > > > > >On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:55:35 +0000, "Stephen Humphreys" > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > > New post name. Not new poster > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are Daniel (or 'euric', or 'kilopascal', or 'daniel', or > >etc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out "Bernard Rachtmann's" posts on the bwma site to see > >the > > > >usual > > > > > > > 'dollar collapse' and assortment of full-on anti-american > >sentiment > > > > > > > whilst > > > > > > > using metric as the excuse for that anti-americanism. Other > >posters > > > >- > > > > > >be > > > > > > > aware for more posts that end up damaging the cause of metric > >with > > > > > > > bizzare > > > > > > > notions about the UK and irrelevent information about how > >economies > > > > > >work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be fooled, folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bernard Rachtmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > >Subject: [USMA:37370] Re: Interesting document on the NIST > >metric > > > >page > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:34:42 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, new poster here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In a nutshell I can't see it happening... > > > > > > > >I suspect a compromise will ultimately be struck. Conversely, > >I am > > > >not > > > > > > > >surprised that the FPLA hasn't been amended....yet. Though I'm > >not > > > > > > > >well-versed on the issue, its clear both sides would lose if > > > >neither > > > > > > > >yielded. Also if only one were to yield there would still be > >trade > > > > > > > >dilemas. My guess is that this particular EU directive will be > > > > > > > >suspended indefinitely, while FPLA will be amended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Lets be honest here, many American consumers are familiar with > > > >certain > > > > > > > >inch-pound sizes (I can't see milk exclusively marked "3.79 L." > > > >with no > > > > > > > >mention of gallon by 2010, etc), and should there be extras or > >a > > > > > > > >packaging run duplicated, they'll want the potential market > >still > > > >open. > > > > > > > >Now, a EU-made product thats all metric would need only slap a > > > >sticker > > > > > > > >on for US sales, rather than tear off or marker out the > >contents. > > > > > > > >Besides, doesn't this directive also ban inch/pound from > > > > > >advertisements, > > > > > > > >brochures and even websites? This realistically would cause > >too > > > >much > > > > > > > >commotion in commerce. > > > > > > > >Perhaps they haven't amended it yet so it could be used as a > > > >potential > > > > > > > >bargaining chip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:10:24 -0600, "Mike Millet" > > > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > > > > I was looking through the NIST metric page for any updated > > > > > >information > > > > > > > >on > > > > > > > > > amending the FPLA and found this PDF which was a business > >alert > > > > > >released > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > the NIST a couple months back.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/Metric/upload/Business_Alert_2010.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The composer of the document seems to not be for or against > > > >metric > > > > > > > > > transition but the document did a good job of summarizing > >the > > > > > >relevant > > > > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found it shocking that several organizations within the EU > >are > > > > > > > >actually > > > > > > > > > pressuring the EU to continue the use of dual labelling > >simply > > > > > >because > > > > > > > >US > > > > > > > > > companies haven't switched, but I'm sure this deadline will > >not > > > >get > > > > > > > > > extended > > > > > > > > > once more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has there been any more relevant movement or information on > >the > > > > > >issue > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > anyone is aware of or is it doomed to a slow quiet death in > >a > > > > > > > > > congressional > > > > > > > > > commitee ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > Bernard Rachtmann > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > >http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and > > > > > > > > love email again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free > > > > > >newsletters! > > > > > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > Bernard Rachtmann > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely > >different… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Windows Live™ Messenger has arrived. 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