Bill Hooper asks why not keep the cubic decimeter, cubic metre, cubic 
millimetre etc. which are strictly SI.

    I ask why are milliliter, liter, and other types of liter (cubic decimeter) 
quantities so commonly used in grocery stores, in gasoline stations and many 
other places?  L is an accepted unit which is approved for use with the SI even 
though it is not strictly SI since it's so commonly used worldwide.  Why have a 
mixture?  So why not use kL for very large quantities to be consistent?

As for the person who asked about the metric quantities marked on containers, 
it really didn't matter because the visual quantity (bottle etc) was sufficient 
information to make a decision to purchase.  This is what the President of a 
Consumer organization found back in the 1970s.  Nothing new!  However, 
unit-pricing was very important to the buyer.


Regards, Stan Doore


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Hooper 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:24 PM
  Subject: [USMA:38949] Re: Indefinite postponement




  On 2007 Jun 28 , at 4:14 AM, G Stanley Doore wrote:


    ... why not adopt kL for the cubic metre to be consistent with other kilo 
uses.  



  Why not? Because -
  - (1) it is unnecessary. since there is already a name for that size; namely, 
the cubic metre,
  - (2) the kilolitre and the litre are not coherent with the other units of 
the SI; in any calculations done involving other SI units, care must be taken 
to use only coherent SI units or else the answers will be wrong.




    The kL is simple and understandable for all to use, but it doesn't preclude 
the use of scientific notation by scientists.



  Paraphrasing Doore's comment above: "The cubic metre is just as simple and 
understandable as the kilolitre (perhaps simpler and more understandable) and 
doesn't preclude the general public from using it."


    The kL/s would be particularly useful in stream flow and kL for lake volume 
in hydrology, and for other  applications in which large volumes are involved.  
And, it does not preclude the use of L/s and L for smaller volumes.  Also,  Nm3 
(Normal metre cubed) and barrels used in oil and gas reporting should be 
replaced with kL to make the SI volume unit universal and consistent in the oil 
and gas industry.



  Everything stated for the kilolitre in the above paragraph is just as true 
for the cubic metre, including the fact that use of the cubic metre does not 
preclude using the litre for smaller volumes. 


  I need to ask what is meant by "normal metre cubed". Is that any different 
than a cubic metre? Regardless, there is no reason to use "Normal metres cubed" 
in place of cubic metres. 


  Contrary to what Doore suggests, use of the kilolitre is NOT an SI unit (nor 
is the litre) and using it to make things "consistent in the oil and gas 
industry" would make the "things" inconsistent and not coherent with the rest 
of SI. It is more important to keep SI consistent (and coherent) than it is to 
cater to one particular industry that wants special dispensation to measure 
things differently.







  Bill Hooper
  72 kg body mass*
  Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA


  * plus or minus a kilogram or so.



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