Phil,
I have to disagree. Shell had made a commitment to permanent gas-by-the-liter at all stations, both electronic and mechanical. It was stated in their annual report as well as the media, which I went and looked at the time. I well remember Shell liter electronic pumps at the time, as I only patronized liter gas stations. Sunoco, Arco, Amoco - to name a few - were in the process of following suit. Nat From: Phil Chernack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2008 June 02 8:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: U.S. Metric Association Subject: Re: [USMA:41014] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US I was buying gas by the liter in 1983, long after the Carter administration was gone and Reagan dismantled the Metric Board. The only reason gas was sold by the liter is it was a stop-gap measure until stations could replace or modify their pumps. I don't think there was any thought that sales by the liter would be long-term. Phil On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Nat Hager III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After the ~1980 debacle, we need to at least get in on the radar screen with the public before we can even begin to convert. At that time the impetus was gas going over $1/gallon, which presented a real problem since most gasoline pumps couldn't go over that amount. And then there was the public perception that the US was "about to go metric", so why not solve the 2 problems at once? So a tolerant public at the time allowed gasoline pump conversion to get almost 1/3 of the way (company-wide conversion of Shell, Sunoco, Amoco, Arco, etc) until the weak Carter administration Metric Board refused to give its blessing and the whole thing needlessly fizzled. So what's the impetus to get it started now, almost 30 years later? I don't know, but I'd sure like a good suggestion! Laws aren't the problem, since all the individual state laws are probably still on the books... Nat From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of STANLEY DOORE Sent: Monday, 2008 June 02 1:17 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:41013] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US When the Feds pass metric-only legislation for labeling products, then the gas station industry could sell gasoline by the liter throughout the US. This move would be a visible, positive and useful path to selling many other products in SI Units and would include encouragement to change distance road signs to the SI. I already have my navigation system set to metric, and it's much more useful that way. Stan Doore ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Millet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: U.S. <mailto:[email protected]> Metric Association Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: [USMA:41009] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US Good to know. I just wish that the gas station owner's first impulse was to sell by the liter rather than selling by the old outdated half gallon :). Maybe with time we can persuade them otherwise. Mike On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, James Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sales of motor fuel are regulated by states. In the "Interpretations and Guidelines" section of NCWM Handbook 130 metric pricing and dispensing rules are given on pp 242 and 243. Those DO call for showing the price per gallon whenever fuel is sold by the liter, as well as the price per liter. Individual states may follow that or form their own rules. I gave a link to a downloadable copy of Handbook 130 earlier. Jim Nat Hager III wrote: I would think it would be legal in every state, considering how far gas-by-the-liter got in the early eighties. I know they passed the legislation then, as so many stations were doing it, and I doubt if they ever took it back. I think Hawaii had mandatory gas-by-the-liter for several years. Nat *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Phil Chernack *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56 *To:* U.S. Metric Association *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the liter in the US I can't say for every state but in New Jersey it is legal to sell and dispense by the liter provided both the price per liter and price per gallon are displayed. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Mike Millet <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Just curious here , as I've been readying a lot about how some older gas pumps have started pricing by the half gallon instead of the gallon. Is it actually legal in the US to sell gas by the liter? And if so, does it fall under state or federal regulation? All the news articles I've read so far have said that stations just have to apply with the state regulator to sell by the half gallon. A lot of people in the comments sections on the different articles seem to be in favor of switching the price to liters nationally but so far there haven't been any responses from industry or gas stations. Mike -- "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination. -- James R. Frysinger 632 Stony Point Mountain Road Doyle, TN 38559-3030 (H) 931.657.3107 (C) 931.212.0267 -- "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination.
