James,

I was under the impression that all pumps in the US already pumped in liters
and ticked up by the gallon.  Either that or that it was only a flip of a
switch type of thing.

That could be for newer pumps though.

Mike

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, James Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Since the federal government does not control this and since most states
> probably allow selling motor fuel by the liter, this will happen the same
> way that 2 L bottles of pop became prevalent -- by vendor initiative and
> encouragement.
>
> The availability of equipment to modify pumps is necessary, which is why I
> wrote to the Petroleum Equipment Institute president, as reported here by me
> a few weeks ago. The PEI can also help with encouragement, if they choose
> to.
>
> Jim
>
> STANLEY DOORE wrote:
>
>> I understand; however, conversion to liters for gasoline dispensing
>> nationwide simultaneous is necessary to provide uniformity among the public.
>>    Stan doore
>>
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    *From:* Phil Chernack <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>    *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>    *Cc:* U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected]>
>>    *Sent:* Monday, June 02, 2008 8:37 AM
>>    *Subject:* Re: [USMA:41013] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the
>>    liter in the US
>>
>>    Once again, the FPLA has nothing to do with the sale of gasoline.
>>  Gasoline is regulated at the state level. States are free at this
>>    time to allow metric-only sales of gas but will not do so because
>>    they perceive that the public won't accept it.  Even if the FPLA is
>>    amended and many products show up metric only, until the auto
>>    manufacutrers, marketers and the National Highway Transportation
>>    Safety Administration (the body that dictates car saftey
>>    regulations) get on board we will not see any sustainable visible
>>    metric measures in cars (speedometer, fuel capacity, fuel economy.)
>>
>>    On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM, STANLEY DOORE
>>    <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>        When the Feds pass  metric-only legislation for labeling
>>        products, then the gas station industry could sell gasoline by
>>        the liter throughout the US.  This move would be a visible,
>>        positive and useful path to selling many other products in SI
>>        Units and would include encouragement to change distance road
>>        signs  to the SI.  I already have my navigation system set to
>>        metric, and it's much more useful that way.
>>        Stan Doore
>>
>>            ----- Original Message -----
>>            *From:* Mike Millet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>            *To:* U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected]>
>>            *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2008 5:16 PM
>>            *Subject:* [USMA:41009] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the
>>            liter in the US
>>
>>            Good to know.  I just wish that the gas station owner's
>>            first impulse was to sell by the liter rather than selling
>>            by the old outdated half gallon :). Maybe with time we can
>>            persuade them otherwise.
>>
>>
>>            Mike
>>
>>            On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, James Frysinger
>>            <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>                Sales of motor fuel are regulated by states. In the
>>                "Interpretations and Guidelines" section of NCWM
>>                Handbook 130 metric pricing and dispensing rules are
>>                given on pp 242 and 243. Those DO call for showing the
>>                price per gallon whenever fuel is sold by the liter, as
>>                well as the price per liter. Individual states may
>>                follow that or form their own rules. I gave a link to a
>>                downloadable copy of Handbook 130 earlier.
>>
>>                Jim
>>
>>                Nat Hager III wrote:
>>
>>                    I would think it would be legal in every state,
>>                    considering how far gas-by-the-liter got in the
>>                    early eighties.  I know they passed the legislation
>>                    then, as so many stations were doing it, and I doubt
>>                    if they ever took it back.
>>
>>                                        I think Hawaii had mandatory
>> gas-by-the-liter for
>>                    several years.
>>
>>                                        Nat
>>
>>                                        *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>                    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] *On Behalf Of
>>                    *Phil Chernack
>>                    *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56
>>                    *To:* U.S. Metric Association
>>                    *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of selling fuel
>>                    by the liter in the US
>>
>>                                        I can't say for every state but in
>> New Jersey it is
>>                    legal to sell and dispense by the liter provided
>>                    both the price per liter and price per gallon are
>>                    displayed.
>>
>>                    On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Mike Millet
>>                    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>                    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>>
>>                    Just curious here , as I've been readying a lot
>>                    about how some older gas pumps have started pricing
>>                    by the half gallon instead of the gallon. Is it
>>                    actually legal in the US to sell gas by the liter?
>>                    And if so, does it fall under state or federal
>>                    regulation?
>>
>>                    All the news articles I've read so far have said
>>                    that stations just have to apply with the state
>>                    regulator to sell by the half gallon.  A lot of
>>                    people in the comments sections on the  different
>>                    articles seem to be in favor of switching the price
>>                    to liters nationally but so far there haven't been
>>                    any responses from industry or gas stations.
>>
>>                    Mike
>>
>>                    --                    "The boy is dangerous, they all
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>>
>>                --                James R. Frysinger
>>                632 Stony Point Mountain Road
>>                Doyle, TN 38559-3030
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
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