Agreed. I haven't a clue who I would contact though to discuss such a change.

Patrick Moore wrote:
I am shocked at that provision of the AP style guide. AP style is taught in every college journalism class in the USA and is considered gospel. The style guide is in every newsroom. Any writer or copyeditor who tries to introduce or advance SI in his or her newspaper may find AP style cited, and no further argument will avail. The committee that inserted that provision in the guide was simply expressing what was standard practice, but now it needs to be changed.


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Yes, of course Bill is correct. I meant to say "journalistic publishing" as distinct from book and non-journalistic magazine publishing. I was merely trying to point out just how much influence the AP style guides have. Thanks Bill for the clarification.
Brian

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    Subject: [USMA:41144] RE: Associated Press Style Guide is working
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    From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Date: Mon, June 16, 2008 10:55 pm
    To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>

    Not quite true, Brian.

    AP style is followed by AP correspondents and some (or most,
    perhaps) newspapers and magazines (by default, especially where AP
    is the source of the story). However, most books adhere to the
    /Chicago Manual of Style/.

    Of course, AP style can be superimposed on Chicago Style, with AP
    Style taking precedence where there is a conflict. Not many book
    publishers (almost none, in fact, as far as I know) indulge in
    such superimposition. When I edit a manuscript, I use Chicago Style.

    The AP Stylebook is not solely about style. Its full title is /The
    Associated Press Stylebook and Briefing on Media Law/.

    There are other styles for other purposes, and they include APA
    (American Psychological Association) Style and MLA (Modern
    Language Association) Style. Their use is mainly in the academic
    environment (term papers, theses, dissertations, etc.). Some
    publishers (e.g., McGraw-Hill) have their own style books.

    The AP Style appears to be the only one to have anything
    restrictive to say about the use of SI units.

    Bill
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    Everyone has.   Well, anyone who does publishing for a living.
      Certainly, it's time for the AP to change their guides.

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        Subject: [USMA:41140] RE: Associated Press Style Guide is working
        against us.
        From: "Carleton MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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        To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>

        Who made the AP the dictator of writing style?

        Carleton

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        Subject: [USMA:41135] Associated Press Style Guide is working
        against us.

        I met a nice young lady over the weekend who is a reporter for
        the
        Burlington County Times in southern New Jersey. She informed
        me, during
        the course of our discussion, that she must write in
        English/Customary
        units, as metric is not allowed by the AP style guides.

        I asked if she could send me some text of it, here's what I just
        received from her.

        "Hey Mike,

        This is from the 2007 AP stylebook, you have to be a member to
        search
        the online version:

        For U.S. members, use metric terms only in situations where
        they are
        universally accepted forms of measurement (16 mm film) or
        where the
        metric distance is an important number in itself: "He vowed to
        walk 100
        kilometers (62 miles) in a week."



        Seems even if reporters wanted to write in metric, they
        couldn't, or
        their editors would have to change it to get it run by the AP.

        Ideas?

        -Mike



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