Bill:

The Macintosh wide-non-breaking-space problem is (as I thought I made clear)
with browsers, not word processing programs. Marion Moon has confirmed, via
a private email message, that his browser, Camino, still exhibits the
problem.

The best way, for documents destined to be PDF files or to be printed, is to
use a period or a lower-case I instead of the space. Then change the color
of the period (or lower-case I) to that of the background (usually white).
That way, you get what appears to be a thin non-breaking space. For
heavy-duty publishing packages (e.g., QuarkXpress, CorelDraw, and the
various Adobe applications), you can of course use a specific non-breaking
thin space.

The background-colored period or lower-case "I" has a problem with browsers,
where they are used by people with vision problems. One of the accessibility
options for them is to turn off background coloring and to show all text in
black. In that case, the period or lower-case I will be visible, making the
non-breaking space the only practical approach.

Bill
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Bill Potts
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bill Hooper
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 08:30
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:41382] Re: Space between value and unit

>
Bill Potts wrote:
>
> (The) use of the non-breaking space ... would produce a wide space 
> (rather than an ordinary, thin space) on at least some Macintosh- 
> based browsers. As I am not an Apple user, I don't know if that's 
> still the case.

I'm an Apple Macintosh user and can tell you that the non-breaking space is
available in "Pages", Apple's word processor. It is entered by typing
(control)-(space bar). Furthermore, this produces a non- breaking space of
exactly the same size as a normal space.

As previously noted, this allows one to put the obligatory space between a
number and its associated unit, yet prevent them from being separated at the
end of a line of print (it prevents the number from appearing on the end of
one line with the unit on the beginning of the next line).

I see no reason why MS Word, MS Publisher, MS Front Page, etc. would not be
able to do the same thing on on Macintosh machine if, as Bill notes, those
applications can do it on PC machines. The Mac can run Windows and all
Windows applications, and those apps run on the Mac just as well as they do
on a PC. (There even is some data that shows that some Windows programs work
BETTER on a Mac.)

I will add, however, that on my Apple email program (named "Mail"), the
(control)-(space) combination does NOT produce a non-breaking space. There
is no error if you type that combination but it just produces an ordinary
space.


Bill Hooper
73 kg body mass*
Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA

* plus or minus a kilogram or so.

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