It occurred to me that those interested in this subject might appreciate the 
attached table.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stan Jakuba 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: 08 Sep 17, Wednesday 09:22
  Subject: [USMA:41732] Fuel rating and dispensing


  It is not Joules per kilogram but joules per kilogram. Otherwise I agree with 
you as discussed several times. Indeed, fuels should be rated for their energy 
(heat in this case) contents at the "pump." This was the practice with coal for 
centuries. With the liquid hydrocarbons such as gasoline, the variablity is not 
as great as with coal, small enough to be commonly ignored. But the impact 
within the permitted range of some 42 MJ/kg to 44 MJ/kg is detectable in a 
car's fuel consumption, and certainly on a dynamometer. 

  So it will be with hydrogen - there is no such thing as pure hydrogen when it 
comes to dispensing it for public consumption. There are always other 
substances present, and money can be made by increasing their concentration, in 
other words, removing them less carefully. Energy density dispensing, with mass 
or volume, removes that possibility for cheating.

  There are parts of the world where people are billed for the energy used, not 
the volume or mass of fuel burned. For example, heat meters are attached with 
radiators in appartment buildings, the billing done by reading each sensor 
remotely. Electrical heating is the ultimate example of the for-energy billing 
(for-kWh, usually, unfortunately, rather than for-joules).

  Any fuel, coal, gasoline, gas, hydrogen, should be (and is, I presume, at the 
refinery or shipper's "dock") priced by its mass or volume, with, in either 
case, the heat contents. The choice of mass or volume is a matter of 
convenience of dispensing, the choice depending on circumstances.

  Speaking of the Metric Today article, there is a sad testimony of our 
regulators' ignorant attitude towards SI as the ultimate goal. Why would they 
even consider the bar instead of the pascal is beyond me. Well, it just 
reflects on their knowledge, the lack of it. Instead of "let's see what the 
Europeans do" they should look at the historical trend towards coherence in the 
formation of all derived units and follow it.
  Stan Jakuba 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: STANLEY DOORE 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Cc: US Metric Assoc 
    Sent: 08 Sep 16, Tuesday 05:22
    Subject: [USMA:41712] Metric fuel labels


        Metric Today published by the US Metric Association (www.metric.org) 
reports that hydrogen (H2) is proposed be sold in units of mass using the 
kilogram (kg) at service pressures of 35 MPa and 70 MPa (megapascal).  Tire 
pressures are already shown in metric (kPa).
        Using the International System of Units (SI) in the United States 
begins an era which should be used to label fuels by energy content using 
Joules (J) and J/kg (Joules per kilogram).  J/kg is a badly needed common 
denominator for energy content.
        The SI would allow consumers to compare the amount of energy they are 
buying/using for each type of fuel - high-test gasoline, regular gasoline, 
kerosene, diesel, JP4, CNG, biofuels, a mixture of fuels like gasoline and 
ethanol (E-85 & E-10), electricity, etc.  It's confusing now.  The SI would 
bring them together for better decision-making.  Mass has been used for years 
for bulk fuel transportation (tons of petroleum) and mass for aircraft 
refueling.  
        Buying fuel by energy content and mass (J/kg) would help to improve 
public understanding.  And, it should be linked with the kilometer (km) for 
distance instead of miles.  It makes sense since there is a move to change road 
signs to meters and kilometers.
        Stan Doore

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