Stan et al, seems as if KISS in practice is keeping it familiar instead of 
simple.  And, sad to admit,  it may be that simplicity is what is confusing the 
American people about metric. Americans are used to taking the longcut instead 
of the shortcut in measurement.  It's like that scene in Driving Miss Daisy.  
Hoke, the driver (played by Morgan Freeman) takes the direct route to the 
Piggly Wiggly store, but has to defeat the insistence of his back-seat driver 
boss, Miss Daisy (played by the late Jessica Tandy) who insists breathlessly 
that she has always gone to the Piggly Wiggly via Highland Avenue. Before they 
finish arguing, Hoke pulls up to the front of the store.

Paul


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stan Jakuba 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Cc: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: 26 January, 2009 10:41
  Subject: [USMA:42601] Re: REALLY using the SI


  The megagram, Mg, is in every metrication guidebook I ever saw and it is 
"common" in engineering practice and textbooks. It is safe. Because:
  There is a whole bunch of tons, tuns, tann, tonnes, long ones, short ones, 
metric ones, and some mean mass, other force and some both. Most people have no 
clue that those expressions may mean something else that what they think they 
do, and therein lies the danger - mistakes, because nobody will "ask". With Mg, 
they might go: What the $#@&% is that? 
  As we know, there is simply the Mg (as there are mg, kg, Gg, etc.) for any 
mass and similarly with the N for all forces (mN, kN, MN, etc.). Neither of 
these two quantities, nor the professions like in refrigeration need the cursed 
t.
  Let's adhere to the KISS principle when dealing with the metric system. 
  The general population will catch on anything if they see it repeatedly. 
Anybody can and will be comfortable with Mg if the other nicknames disappear 
from public view. 
  Let's be consistent among us to start with, and expand our horizons outside 
the English speaking word (how is "ton" in Chinese?, Arabic?). The coherent 
system called SI is the ultimate goal and these silly non-coherences, some with 
the blessing of BIPM, are only complicating and fuel anti-metric sentiments in 
the U.S.
  Stan Jakuba
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Dunlop 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Cc: U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: 09 Jan 26, Monday 10:45
    Subject: [USMA:42599] Re: REALLY using the SI


    ... and a Mg would never be confused with a tonne, or a ton, or a short 
ton, or a long ton.  At least not off-ton.

    John


    At 09:17 AM 1/26/2009, Mike Palumbo wrote:


      That should read absolute zero, my apologies.

      -M

      Mike Palumbo wrote:


        I personally do not believe that kelvin and the thermodynamic 
temperature scale are appropriate for use when talking about temperatures that 
humans feel & interact with on a daily basis.  
        Humans are not going to deal with absolute, but we will surely deal 
with the freezing & boiling points of water.

        I'd much prefer to say, "It's really hot out, must be almost 35 
degrees!" much more than "Must be almost 309!".

        -M

        Paul Trusten wrote:

          From that last exchange between Jim Frysinger and Stan Doore, I am 
contemplating the corruptions of the SI we have lived with, and I wonder if 
even the metricated world could stand international standardization of 
measurement.  Consider:
           

              * kelvins instead of  degrees Celsius for temperature
              * square meters or square kilometers instead of hectares
              * megagrams instead of tonnes or metric tons
              * In U.S. medical laboratories, millimoles per liter instead of
                milligrams per deciliter for results involving concentrations

           
          Actually, I've never seen a megagram used, but I don't understand why 
it isn't used. Its symbol, Mg, could hardly be mistaken for the milligram, 
and,even so, no one is going to mistakenly ship someone else one milligram of 
rice.
           
           
           
           
          Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
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