Ken, I've heard a rumor recently that the UK no longer uses the liter for dispensing gasoline but has instead switched to a new unit called "air miles". Can you provide some further information on this?
I also understand that some super markets are now re-introducing scales in pound units that are being used to weigh goods asked for by customers. I believe that a Tesco located in the town of Loudwater has already changed over. Can you provide some further information on this reversion? Jerry ________________________________ From: Ken Cooper <[email protected]> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 8:17:33 PM Subject: [USMA:43385] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! I'll leave it to other contibutors to the board to decide whether points I make are more or less valid depending upon whether I call myself "Ken" or whatever name Stephen Humphreys attributes to me. I'll just point out one thing. Stephen Humphreys has not addressed or responded to one single point I have made regarding imperial or metric measurement in the UK. Instead, he has attempted to personalise the debate by making personal attacks on me rather than attempting to disprove any point I have made. I'm quite willing to respond to any point Steve makes regarding measurement. I'm also quite willing to respond to anyone else regarding use of imperial or metric in the UK. I think that it is very telling that Steve invites personal messages & refuses to debate in public. --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> wrote: From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> Subject: [USMA:43384] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 1:02 AM .....and here comes Euric's mate Lee Roberts. I'm not entering into this - esp as you still use sinister post names to try to 'get to me' Should anyone else on the list (what I would call 'normals') wish to know more info then I will answer on a one to one or public basis. Whether that be soft drinks in fl oz (on the receipt) at the bar or how my brother uses the instruction to feed his newborn (and he's not interested in the subject whatsoever) etc etc etc etc. Suffice to say I don't really have much to gain posting lies here (which seems to be your job here, ie make me out to be a liar - note my prediction that you will reply to any post made by me simply for effect). Again folks - sorry for these pair - I really did not mean to drag them here. ________________________________ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:53:15 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: [USMA:43383] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: [email protected] Well Steve, you might as well mention the "pint" as a UK measure for all these products for one last time! Have you "forgotten" that the majority of prescibed quantities (apart from draught beer) are being abolished in April? That's odd, because I've definitely pointed it out to you......... I fail to see your point regarding baby food & liquid fuel. Both are sold by reference to metric measure in the UK. I can provide references to legislation or to practical examples if you want. Is your reference to "descriptively" just meant to be an admission that they are not used for quantitative terms? I will agree that a few UK pubs defy UK law by describing soft drinks by the half pint. So what? Is it common? Do the pubs that do it subscribe to the views of yourself or other anti-metric zealots? Do you consider this to be a demand to return to outdated measurement units? I would love to see your proof that fl. oz. are common meaures in UK pubs, however. As far as I'm aware, that stopped in 1996. That's 13 years ago! Please expand upon your theories! But yes. On one point you are right. The UK doesn't tend to use the quart. Especially the 946ml quart. It has never existed in the UK. But the 1.136 litre milk bottle has NEVER been marked as a quart in the UK within my memory. That's because imperial doesn't tend to be marked in the UK any more. And if it is, it doesn't tend to be quarts or fl oz. I'll look forward to your reply :):):) --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> wrote: From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> Subject: [USMA:43369] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 11:48 PM Except for pints of milk, beer and pints used descriptively. Fl Oz in recipes, baby drink preps gallons in miles per gallon. Fl Oz for soft drinks at the pub We don't tend to use quarts though -maybe that's where you're entire argument rests. ________________________________ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:41:05 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: [USMA:43367] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: [email protected] My guess is that it is provided for the American tourists. Most Americans don't know a British version exists and those who are British don't need imperial conversions as they are already fully conversant in metric... As you already know British volume measures (except for the pint in limited applications) are dead. Jerry ________________________________ From: Ken Cooper <[email protected]> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 5:39:35 PM Subject: [USMA:43336] USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! One of my local hotels hands out small diaries as new year gifts to customers/visitors etc. I note that this year's version has a section entitled "conversions" underneath the time-zones map. I was intrigued to note that it had different sections for dry & for liquid measure, and that the liquid measure gave conversions for fluid ounce, quart & gallon - but not for pint. On closer examination, I found that the fluid ounce was defined as 29 and a bit millilitres, the quart as ~946ml & the gallon as ~3.79 litres.... Now, as everyone knows, these figures would be correct in USC, but are all incorrect in UK imperial. I'll lay odds that practically no-one actually noticed though. Can I suggest that this shows the irrelevancy of imperial liquid measure in the UK? People recognise an imperial pint in the pub, but appear to be unable to relate it to the smaller (fl. oz.) & larger (gallon) measures in the system. What point is there in perpetuating a system where the majority of people don't understand it any more? ________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. Try it Now! ________________________________ Windows Live just got better. Find out more!
