It's probably the circles one frequents with - I've never heard about this 
'laughing stock' thing.  I worked at a European HQ for a large organisation and 
we had many co-workers from all over Europe.  Many adopted the lingo with miles 
etc.  Some thought it was 'great' and was one of the things that makes the UK - 
well- the UK!
As far as ebay is concerned it depends what you're searching for.  We recently 
had a baby and all the forums and groups etc we see/go to talks in terms of 
imperial (I mean baby food, etc as well as babies).  That doesn't prove that 
all conversations about food will be in ounces.
Watching TV and listening to the Radio (for our US friends) would be a better 
glimpse of measure usage - especially if it's casually spoken.

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:45963] Re: teaching customary units
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:57:07 +0100











Blair is pro-EU because he has always wanted a prominent 
EU position - now it looks like he's going to get to be EU president 
(ughh!).
 
As for the UK being the world's laughing stock for 
clinging to imperial - IT IS!!  My friends, colleagues and family in Canada 
and Australia really do laugh at the UK for clinging to miles, yards, feet 
and inches on the roads, and pounds in the markets.  That the UK is a 
laughing stock in this respect is something I have been banging on about for a 
long time - glad someone else is of a similar opinion.  It's actually 
embarrassing, and I am careful to distance myself from our stupid government 
(and those stupid individuals who support it) on this issue.
 
Fortunately, there is hope yet.  I have recently been 
selling some of my surplus stuff on eBay (with only two of us we really don't 
need a huge 4 bedroomed house to rattle around in, so are looking to downsize), 
and whenever I look to see what similar items are selling for, item 
descriptions 
(and these are descriptions placed there by everyday people like you and me) 
are 
almost always in metric (even if the centimeter gets used rather than the 
millimeter - not a problem in my view).  The UK is far more metric than our 
politicians give us credit for.  And that can only be a good 
thing.
 
John F-L
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Stephen 
  Humphreys 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:59 
  PM
  Subject: [USMA:45963] Re: teaching 
  customary units
  

 
>
> 
> > I suspect that is the 
  reason why imperial made a return to the 
> > curriculum in the UK 
  from the 90's (when I was at school in the 80's I 
> > can't remember 
  being taught any imperial, although I can imagine 
> > teachers 
  'spoke it' so to speak).
> 
> I believe the real reason was that 
  those who were anti-EU successfully linked metrication in the 
> public 
  mind with European integration (despite the fact that metrication was 
  initiated as a British 
> Commonwealth wide project). Thus retention of 
  these units became part of defending British culture, 
> rather than 
  ensuring that British people and industry could enjoy a better tool by which 
  to conduct 
> commerce. Pupils have since paid the price in terms of 
  additional baggage they have to endure in 
> schools.
> 
  
 
It was under Blair that the current curriculum was formed - 
  arguably the most pro-EU and pro-metric government we've had since Heath in 
  the early 70's
 

> By all means teach both sets of units if 
  your desire is to end up with the mess of units used in the 
> UK, but 
  if you want to lay the foundations for a complete transition in the long run, 
  international 
> experience would suggest removing them completely from 
  the classroom as soon as possible.
> 

It's really not perceived 
  as a "mess of units" by the ordinary punter in the street.  Only those 
  with an interest in the subject might hold that opinion - but for obvious 
  reasons.  It's a bit like the "imperial measures makes us a laughing 
  stock in the world" quote.  I've yet to hear a Barbadian say "Ha ha! You 
  said 'mile' ! "
 
However I fully understand why some people might 
  think this way if they have a strong opinion on this - but let's balance that 
  with how the wider community views it.
 
Just a thought.


  
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