> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:49:27 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:46805] Re: babies produced, UK
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> > "British Occupation". Hmm. A US view of UK history! ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
> And how else would you term the invasion and holding by force of another
> country ? This country was occupied by the British for a long time, and
> like the Americans we had our Declaration of a Republic (1916) and our
> War of Idependence (1918-1922).
>
> What is more controversial (as used by extremists) is to apply the term
> to Northern Ireland -- where the majority *do* want to be part of the UK
> (which is why I don't use it in that context). That is probably why the
> term has fallen out of favor recently, but historically applied to what
> is now the Irish Republic, it is quite accurate.
>
> > We have a young Irish chap in our team at work ...
>
> Does he actually refer to himself as a 'chap' ? If so, I wonder how
> typically Irish he us. ;-)
>
> > (contracts in the UK -
> > better pay)
>
> Nice side swipe. Citation please ? We have a lot of British people
> working here too, and the pay scales in the two countries are pretty
> similar -
>
> http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/isl/PayinEurope.htm
>
> puts us slightly higher, though the recent downturn has hit both our
> countries.
>
> Most telling of all is that you referred to it as 'UK history',
> suggesting a certain reluctance even now to admit we are a different
> country.
>
> Tom Wade
>
There was no side swipe. It depends on your specific skill
'Chap' was my word (used colloquially).
The use of 'UK' is deliberate and refers to the timescale I was talking about.
At one point the most loyal royalist area of the UK was Ireland when Mr
Cromwell came along. But more recently the fact London totally buggered it up
by shooting a few 'rogues' like they were legally unimportant is why a nation
that didn't specifically have very strong goals of independance from the union
suddenly found a voice based on repulsion. The rest is history. Silly us (the
Brits). The same 'silly us' applies to the handling of the USA. However that
country is never going to get anywhere is it ;-)
I've *rrrrealllly* paraphrased there because I don't want to elaborate a
discussion about UK or Irish or Irish UK or UK (Irish) or whatever history on a
board about metric. I don't think many would like to see it go on (correct me
if I am wrong).
P.S. There is more that links us than divides us - and even when I visit Dublin
the place looks like another great British city but maybe that's because Dublin
authorities have a strict law on preserving the Edwardian architecture there
(even stipulating that if building work has to be done then any bricks taken
down need to be numbered and returned to exactly where they were to start
with). Today the greatest war is battled upon the grounds of Croke Park, by
the river Taf, on the soil of West London etc. The six nations competition. I
cheered Ireland winning against England by the way.
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