Of course I know it is a mistake, hence the smiley.

However, given the recommendation for dual signage, that recommendation was 
certainly followed haphazardly, with every sign following a different 
practice.  Add to that a mistake like the 33", well, it becomes pretty 
laughable, but, to be honest, we are laughing at them, not with them.

A bird splat will fix the 33".  If they KNEW the recommendation for dual 
signage was becoming a requirement (even if not in force yet), I believe they 
made a poor choice.  Given the haphazard use of single unit/dual unit, they 
obviously didn't put much thought into the whole decision.




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From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 9:29:01 PM
Subject: [USMA:46982] Re: Where's the common sense in this??

Yes we have 'Tonka' over here - I remember having one! 

John - I would have thought you would recognise a mistake like this (33")?  And 
the fact that most - if not all - people would recognise what they really 
meant?  Of all the signs on our roads one measure mistake is not bad going (and 
just a little ' to boot!).

A worse mistake is in Wales - where someone from the signs department emailed a 
Welsh clerk who's job it was to offer back the Welsh translation.  
Unfortunately this Welsh clerk was on holiday and had a 'out of office' message 
in Welsh - a translation of which was something like 'In my absence please 
email .... etc'.  That message ended up on the road sign!!   (I believe I am 
accurate in the story - its on the BBC news website somewhere).

Anyway - back to the topic - it was a mistake - and I would immediately 
understand that they meant 33 feet knowing instinctively that 33 inches would 
be a very small vehicle.

I think they should have thought harder before presenting the story the way 
they did.

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:08:55 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:46981] Re: Where's the common sense in this??
To: [email protected]


Tonka is a brand of toy trucks in the US (not sure about the UK).  My son is an 
adult now, but when he was little, he had Tonka trucks bigger than are allowed 
in the tunnel. :)

It certainly drives a stake in the argument that Imperial units are natural, 
intuitive, and well understood.

To your point of doing a better job, we are currently headed down a worse 
path.  The metric sign content that had existed on par with Customary in the 
MUTCD has been removed or moved to an appendix in the 2009 edition.  Had we 
actually reached a point of it recommending (rather than allowing) dual 
signing, I don't think it would have been left as a recommendation for 20 
years.  It would have become a requirement more quickly, with older signs 
grandfathered until they had to be replaced.  DfT seems to lack commitment to 
their recommendation.  TfL seems quite nonchalant about ignoring the best 
practice recommendation.  In the litigious US, that would get them sued.




________________________________
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 8:48:52 PM
Subject: [USMA:46978] Where's the common sense in this??


Let's hope when the USA finally converts to metric that we do a more sensible 
job than these folks are:

  http://metricviews.org.uk/2010/03/imperial-confusion-on-new-tunnel-signs/

They'll be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century eventually, but 
in the meantime, money and time will be needlessly wasted dragging their feet 
...

-- Ezra

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