Maybe we should get used to an absolute scale so we won't be disconcerted by
negative temperatures when we explore ice planets in distant galaxies.

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On 8/31/10 10:12 PM, "James R. Frysinger" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> I'm less fussy, folks. I'll be happy when people stop using the
> Fahrenheit scale.
> 
> Are we trying here to specify the color of the dancing slippers worn by
> some yet to be determined number of angels dancing on the head of a pin?
> This thread is starting to sound like some deep theological discussion
> among nuns.
> 
> I suggest we concentrate on metrication of the U.S. Then we can "fix"
> the metric system to our hearts' content.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 2010-08-31 2053, Bill Hooper wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 31 , at 7:45 AM, John M. Steele wrote:
>> 
>>> measurement on the thermodynamic scale is somewhat impractical,
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> Today's high temperature here in Florida was about 32 šC.
>> Why would it be "impractical" to say it was 305 K?
>> There is nothing wrong with a number in the hundreds.
>> 
>> But I don't claim to propose that we measure environmental as the
>> ABSOLUTE temperature in kelvins.
>> I do propose we measure environmental temperatures in kelvins as it is
>> related to the freezing point of water,
>> that is, as a RELATIVE temperature, specifically, relative to the
>> freezing point of water.
>> 
>> I am proposing tat we do this be stating environmental temperatures as
>> so-and-so many kelvins above freezing.
>> For example, say that temperature in Florida today was 32 K above freezing.
>> 
>> I am simply proposing we change
>> from saying "32 degrees Celsius"
>> to saying "32 kelvins above freezing".
>> 
>> This could be further simplified by omitting the phrase "above freezing"
>> whenever the context makes such a meaning obvious.
>> We do this all the time with current temperatures. Don't we?
>> How often do you hear a TV weather reporter stating "today's high was 90
>> degrees Fahrenheit"? Never (almost)
>> They ALL just say it was "90" (or maybe "90 degrees").
>> 
>> The easiest way to avoid the confusing relationship between degrees
>> Celsius and kelvins is to eliminate degrees Celsius entirely.
>> We don't even need to use big numbers if we measure relatively.
>> 
>> It's just like measuring elevations from sea level.
>> If the distance from the center of the earth can be measured in metres
>> then the height of a mountain above sea level can be measure in metres, too.
>> If the elevation of temperature above absolute zero can be measured in
>> kelvins, then the elevation of temperature above freezing can be
>> measured in kelvins, too.
>> 
>> Same unit, two different things being measured.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Hooper
>> 1810 mm tall (above my feet)
>> Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA
>> 
>> *In all the above, I assume we are only interested in temperatures to
>> the nearest whole degree.
>> 
>> ==========================
>> SImplification Begins With SI.
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