There is someone on the US Metric Association listserv who has been banned
also.  He can read, but not post, so he replies to someone on the list and
puts the usma.colostate.edu list address in there too, figuring that the
recipient will do a "reply to all" and thereby post his words to the list.
Unfortunately it works.  He is knowledgeable (unlike John Jacob Weisenheimer
Warner) but tends to pick fights with people he disagrees with.  So I'm
familiar with this tactic and will watch for it.

Carleton

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Poon [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 20:11
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [A_A] Running through DC (was Did Amtrak Buy Bad Trains
...)]

John Jacob JingleJackassHeimer Schmidt, aka Peter Warner, has been drinking
the Kool-Aid again; tried to rope me in and get me to respond to the list
with his words attached.

No way...

He's reading A_A messages, but I don't know what his account is (easy enough
to join, anyway, with a throwaway address from Yahoo!).  Maybe some day
he'll slip up and post something.  Until then, I can't stop him from
reading.

-GP

=============================================================

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [A_A] Running through DC (was Did Amtrak Buy Bad Trains ...)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:59:42 +0000
From: John Jacob Jingle Heimer Schmidt <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: Gene Poon <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]><[email protected]>

I agree that the Sunday connection from 30 to 44 is both farsical and
ludicrous, who wants a San Antoni-esque connection in Pittsburgh. I have
done 30/42 and both the current and previous versions of 43/29. The current
version is more reasonable (8:05pm in/out at 11:59pm at 3hr
54min) westbound, and the eastbound connection, if not for the current track
work, I think 48 should leave first and 30 should leave at 9:30pm out of
CHI)

That puts the PGH arrival at 8:00am and a 10:00am departure on train 44
would not be to shabby).

As to the Superliner Issue, perhaps they could make the Hoosier State run
all the way to Cincinnati and operate the Cardinal Boston-Indinapolis only,
passengers from CHI would board the Hoosier State and change cross-platform
at IND.

850 depart CHI 6:00P arrive CIN 4:00A next day (with new Surfliner Cars,
Business Class and Cafe).

Train 851 would leave Cincinnati such that it gets a more favorable
Indianapolis Schedule, departing at 8:05am, allowing 51 to be moved two
hours later NY-IND.

Schedule:
851
CIN: 3:15A
COI: 4:55A
IND: 6:44A
IND: 8:00A
CRF: 8:30A
LAF: 9:18A
REN: 9:13A
DYE: 11:00A
CHI: 12:05P
(All Western connections maintained at CHI.)

CHI: 6:00P
DYE: 7:18P
REN: 9:00P
LAF: 11:43P
CRF: 12:19A
IND: 12:55A
IND: 1:15A
COI: 3:00A
CIN: 6:00A

Train 50 would depart IND at 2:15A arrive in WAS and combine with train
66 when that train arrives for the trip to Boston.)

51 runs combined with 67 BOS-WAS and leaves WAS 3hr earlier, arriving IND at
1:00am next day where it terminates.
Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Poon <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:39:05
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [A_A] Running through DC (was Did Amtrak Buy Bad Trains ...)

[email protected] wrote:

> The eastbound connection is simply not marketable (435am arrival at 
> Pittsburgh), although I'm sure a few people do it. 2 hours 45 minutes 
> until the Pennsylvanian leaves is bad enough. But the Sunday 
> connection is a total joke,  as the Pennsylvanian doesn't leave until 
> 120pm
>  
> Westbound is a little better. 805pm is a little late to have to wait 
> for dinner, though, and I've no idea what kind of restaurants are in 
> the station area.

================================

But Tom Downs, and later David Gunn, said a PGH connection would be just
fine...

Yeh...

-GP


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