I would make two observations: *Virtually all the copier/printer paper I buy is labelled in dual. "Letter" is apparently 216 × 279 mm to the paper industry. If it is good enough for them, it should suffice for ASTM. (I will admit that I REALLY appreciate many manufacturers listing the grammage too, as the Customary system of paper is completely incomprehensible) *The last time I had a copy of SI 10 (it was actually so old it was issued under dual ASTM/IEEE numbers), it seemed unduly focused on conversion. not on actually working in metric. So they can't practice what they preach? I also don't know the tolerances for US paper sizes, but for ISO-216, it varies with size, A4 would have a cutting tolerance of ±2 mm around the nominal, which is itself truncated to the lower millimeter from a mathematical expression.
--- On Tue, 7/3/12, Robert H. Bushnell <[email protected]> wrote: From: Robert H. Bushnell <[email protected]> Subject: [USMA:51735] Re: Units in brain ticklers To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Cc: "USMA" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 10:03 PM 2012 July 3 I have not found a way to see standards other than buying them. So, I do not see them. ASTM headquarters is not ready to use metric. I asked them to list the size of publications in millimeters. They answered that they would not pay the cost of changing to new cutting equipment for publications. I did not ask them to change the size. This is a psychological problem. I guess we need to get the elected officers to tell the staff to work on changing to millimeters. Staff needs to figure out how to do it. Find reasonably close millimeter numbers for 8.5" x 11". They would not tell me the standard for inch page sizes so I do not know the tolerance. But I think a whole millimeter number will be close enough without new cutters. Let's keep trying. Robert Bushnell -------------------------------- On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:14 AM, mechtly, eugene a wrote: > Excellent request Bob! > > Do we have a way to survey the percentage of SI in ASTM Standards? > As Committee E43, do we have review access to publications without having to > buy each of them? > > Eugene Mechtly > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Robert > H. Bushnell [[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:34 PM > To: U.S. Metric Association > Cc: USMA > Subject: [USMA:51733] Units in brain ticklers > > 2012 July 2 > Curt Gomulinski > TAU BETA PI > I see a bunch of inch-pound units in the brain ticklers > in the Summer 2012 issue of the Bent. Can you help us all by using > only metric units? > > The US is way behind the rest of the world in use of metric > units. The Bent can help by showing it's readers (the best > engineers) where metric numbers fit in all kinds of problems. > > Please add your influence to getting rid of inch-pound numbers. > Thanks, > Robert H. Bushnell > Ohio Gamma 1945 >
