John Steel, sir(s):>ASTM headquarters is not ready to use metric. I asked them to >list the size of publications in millimeters. They answered that >they would not pay the cost of changing to new cutting equipment >for publications. I did not ask them to change the size. I may not appear to be with 'opinion' of hard metrication group; BUT to make the start 'Changing the cutting size of paper'. Keeping the cutting size same and adjusting machine cutting to reasonable limits; it is not difficult <8.5" x 11"> can be considered as: 215 mm x 280 mm and understood as such. There may not be much of loss in 'trimming or catting waste' usable in recycled pulp!Today is INDEPENDENCE DAY of United States to be celebrated all over as 'Fourth of July'. Problem is there but NOT enough to derail the METRICATION process!SIncerly, Brij Bhushan Vij Wednesday, 2012 July 04H13:63(decimal)EST Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda The Astronomical Poem (revised number of days in any month) "30 days has July,September, April, June, November and December all the rest have 31 except February which has 29 except on years divisible evenly by 4; except when YEAR divisible by 128 and 3200 - as long as you remember that "October (meaning 8) is the 10th month; and December (meaning 10) is the 12th BUT has 30 days & ONE OUTSIDE of calendar-format" Jan:31; Feb:29; Mar:31; Apr:30; May:31; Jun:30 Jul:30; Aug:31; Sep:30; Oct:31; Nov:30; Dec:30 (365th day of Year is World Day) ******As per Kali V-GRhymeCalendaar***** "Koi bhi cheshtha vayarth nahin hoti, purshaarth karne mein hai" My Profile - http://www.brijvij.com/bbv_2col-vipBrief.pdf Author had NO interaction with The World Calendar Association except via Media & Organisations to who I contributed for A Possible World Calendar, since 1971. HOME PAGE: http://www.brijvij.com/ Contact via E-mail: [email protected] OR
"GAYATRI LOK" Flat # 3013/3rd Floor NH-58, Kankhal Bypass, Dev-Bhoomi, HARIDWAR-249408 (Uttrakhand - INDIA) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 04:35:54 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: [USMA:51738] Re: Units in brain ticklers To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] I would make two observations: *Virtually all the copier/printer paper I buy is labelled in dual. "Letter" is apparently 216 × 279 mm to the paper industry. If it is good enough for them, it should suffice for ASTM. (I will admit that I REALLY appreciate many manufacturers listing the grammage too, as the Customary system of paper is completely incomprehensible) *The last time I had a copy of SI 10 (it was actually so old it was issued under dual ASTM/IEEE numbers), it seemed unduly focused on conversion. not on actually working in metric. So they can't practice what they preach? I also don't know the tolerances for US paper sizes, but for ISO-216, it varies with size, A4 would have a cutting tolerance of ±2 mm around the nominal, which is itself truncated to the lower millimeter from a mathematical expression. --- On Tue, 7/3/12, Robert H. Bushnell <[email protected]> wrote: From: Robert H. Bushnell <[email protected]> Subject: [USMA:51735] Re: Units in brain ticklers To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Cc: "USMA" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 10:03 PM 2012 July 3 I have not found a way to see standards other than buying them. So, I do not see them. ASTM headquarters is not ready to use metric. I asked them to list the size of publications in millimeters. They answered that they would not pay the cost of changing to new cutting equipment for publications. I did not ask them to change the size. This is a psychological problem. I guess we need to get the elected officers to tell the staff to work on changing to millimeters. Staff needs to figure out how to do it. Find reasonably close millimeter numbers for 8.5" x 11". They would not tell me the standard for inch page sizes so I do not know the tolerance. But I think a whole millimeter number will be close enough without new cutters. Let's keep trying. Robert Bushnell -------------------------------- On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:14 AM, mechtly, eugene a wrote: > Excellent request Bob! > > Do we have a way to survey the percentage of SI in ASTM Standards? > As Committee E43, do we have review access to publications without having to > buy each of them? > > Eugene Mechtly > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Robert > H. Bushnell [[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:34 PM > To: U.S. Metric Association > Cc: USMA > Subject: [USMA:51733] Units in brain ticklers > > 2012 July 2 > Curt Gomulinski > TAU BETA PI > I see a bunch of inch-pound units in the brain ticklers > in the Summer 2012 issue of the Bent. Can you help us all by using > only metric units? > > The US is way behind the rest of the world in use of metric > units. The Bent can help by showing it's readers (the best > engineers) where metric numbers fit in all kinds of problems. > > Please add your influence to getting rid of inch-pound numbers. > Thanks, > Robert H. Bushnell > Ohio Gamma 1945 >
