Natalie,

It is my impression that most people in the US don't really know any
units of measure.

Thanks for the information on the school.

Helen

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 12:53, Natalia Permiakova wrote:

Hi Helen,

The school is one of science and math school of nine specialized high
schools in NYC.

Don't get me wrong, kids there know metric system and can convert
imperial-to-imperial, or metric-to-imperial. But my point is
that studying metric in school without seeing it in every day life as a
primary system is a like studying a foreign language.

I think that kids understand decimals very well and before any
other measurements when they learn to count and when they start to use
money.  But with imperial system even adults are confused (though it
doesn't seem they care ;-) ).

Also, using imperial system narrows scope of problems that can be used
in math/computer problems or adds calculating steps to the solution.
for example, how to calculate an average height of kids in a class? or
in excel or database, how would you represent person's height? (1)two
fields, feet and inches, (2)inches only or (3)feet only using decimals?
or average room size, land size. I guess that decimals are used for
that, say, 15.5 feet room.
Date and time are not decimal, but unfortunately nothing can be done
about that. that is why databases and spreadsheets have special data
type - date. Since imperial system numbers do not fit into standard
numerical data type (that assumes decimals) to handle imperial system
special data type should be created for each measurement or some other
workarounds used....

thanks,
Natalie


43,560 square feet in an acre
5280 feet in a mile
16 ounces in a pound
128 ounces in a gallon
23 confused kids in a class
What could be simpler?
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Cc: Dimitri Skliar <[email protected]>; Natalie Kozlova
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:24 PM
Subject: [USMA:52004] Re: Sent to WSJ....
Natalie,

Right now I am giving presentations on why education should be metric
only in schools, and I am seeing that kids don't understand decimals
well past the age that they should. I taught in South Korea for a
while, so I have an idea of what kids can and can't do there.

I am giving my presentations in Colorado. Where is the science high
school were the kids had such difficulty?

Helen Bushnell


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012, at 20:44, Natalia Permiakova wrote:

well said, Bridget.

Another reason to move to metric is to be able to use calculators.
since calculators are 10 based, it makes it instant to figure out how
many marks on the ruler 0.27 is. In metric countries a third grader
will tell you that right away, but in US it takes some time for a
specialized science high school freshman to figure out. when i saw it
with my eyes, I become passionate about US adopting metric system for
the benefits of education.

My daughter, a high school senior now, learned metric system in
elementary school as well as in all the science classes. But it will be
marked in her head as "for something else" (travel, science) unless she
sees it every day and in the first place, not  in parenthesis.

I believe the government should require for the consumer
products metric measurements to be listed *first* on the products and
imperial to be in parenthesis (and maybe optional, up to the
manufacturer) and I don't think it would require any taxpayer's money.
I think some states at least allow that - I was surprised to get a JOBY
gorilla tripod and to find on the package metric dimensions listed as
primary. I am in love with the product partially because of that ;-)

tv weather channels/reports should start providing temperature in
celcius at least silently on the screen to get kids get used to it and
 for the sake of foreign visitors and immigrants(think New York) . i
have sent emails to some tv channels about that but never heard from
them back.

Then, the schools and (non-science) education will follow. To learn
metric system in elementary school but not to see and feel it in
everyday life only adds confusion for kids.

also, to make older people comfortable, imperial measurements should be
additionally provided in public places, highways, roads for, say, 50
years.

I was really upset to learn recently that California transportation
system went metric and then  returned back to imperial
(http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/oppd/metric1/DD-12-R1_Final.pdf). what a
waste of money (on both ways)!  ;-(
After that I stopped active discussions on the metric system and use
partisan methods: stick a "pro-metric" signature to my emails,
distribute metric rullers/conversion charts to my friends,  ask how
many pints in a gallon at work.... Most people are not even aware that
there is a need in metrication of US.

thanks,
Natalie

43,560 square feet in an acre
5280 feet in a mile
16 ounces in a pound
128 ounces in a gallon
23 confused kids in a class
What could be simpler?

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From: Metric Rules Info <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:28 PM
Subject: [USMA:52002] Sent to WSJ....
Dear Sir:

Justin Scheck correctly points out that efforts to convert the United
States to the metric system have faced significant cultural resistance
over the past four decades ("Cooking a Poundcake in a Metric Oven Is No
Easy Task", Nov. 24).  Although metric system devotees are often
portrayed as amusing eccentrics, a far more serious issue involves the
significant disadvantage imposed on American students by an educational
system that fails to adopt the weights and measures used not only by 95
percent of the world’s population but also in the fastest growing
occupations in the United States.

Current research suggests that as much as 40 percent of instructional
time in primary and secondary education is now spent on standardized
test preparation and administration.  By using customary units in
standardized testing, particularly in science related subjects,
American Educators and by extension our children are faced with the
unique liability of dual-measurement instruction.

It is commonly acknowledged that students who choose to enter Science,
Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM) fields must learn to use
the metric system.  Those who have the intellectual skills required to
achieve these advanced degrees will likely find the conversion to
"metric thinking" to be a modest burden compared to acquiring the rest
of the knowledge needed to succeed in their chosen profession.
However, few realize that the healthcare industry is also exclusively
metric.  As the fastest growing employment sector in the United States
and currently employing one in eight Americans, millions of workers
such as doctors, nurses, physician assistants, pharmacists, physical
therapists, nutritionists, and home health care workers, to name a few,
are required to learn and effectively function in metric units.
Learning a new measurement language is not an easy task for all
Americans. Preventable medication errors in the United States continue
to have deadly consequences. Please refer to the Institute of Safe
Medication Practices ([2]http://www.ismp.org/pressroom/PR20110808.pdf)
for additional information.

Healthcare and STEM occupations are only two areas of employment where
American students are not well served by the use of customary units in
K-12 STEM instruction.  Most modern career paths in manufacturing such
as precision and additive manufacturing and notably, all American
automotive manufacturing have voluntarily converted to metric units.
The United States Armed Forces, which is the largest organization in
the world, requires its workforce to learn and function in metric
units.

While it is certainly amusing to read about Zach Rodriguez's
reprogramming of his parent's oven to display metric units, there are
far more important questions requiring national attention. Why does our
K-12 educational system continue to use customary measurement units in
STEM instruction when neither university level programs nor
professional employment opportunities utilize them?  Could one call
educating our children to think and function in customary units an
institutionalized cognitive disadvantage solely impacting American
children?  I have not found any occupational evidence to support the
continued practice of utilizing customary units in STEM instruction.

I wish this article would have dedicated less time to the
philosophical, cultural aversion to the adoption of the modern metric
system and instead focused on a more practical question:  How might
America’s preference towards customary units impact your child’s future
employment opportunities?

Cordially,
Bridget Nagarajan
Executive Director, M Power
([3]www.teammetric.org)

References

1. http://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=6md544mvqre67
2. http://www.ismp.org/pressroom/PR20110808.pdf
3. http://www.teammetric.org/

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