Martin, The article in Wikipedia was interesting reading. Thanks for posting its URL
Persuading the US and Canada to adopt the EU (and UN) Vehicle Regulations is a difficult task! I prefer to devote my remaining time on this earth to moving *other sectors* of the US to more complete use of SI. e.g. education, and usage in general by the public in trade and commerce. Eugene ________________________________ From: Martin Vlietstra [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:10 PM To: mechtly, eugene a; 'U.S. Metric Association' Subject: RE: [USMA:53559] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938 Hi Eugene, May I suggest that you read the Wikipedia article on harmonisation of vehicle regulations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regulations . This tells me that, apart from the US, there are fewer and fewer “national requirements” – LHD and RHD is one, tropical, temperate and arctic is another. The countries to watch are China, India and Brazil. Martin From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mechtly, eugene a Sent: 14 February 2014 20:19 To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: mechtly, eugene a Subject: [USMA:53559] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938 Martin, Different signal, safety, and control standards already require *two different* assembly lines. The signal, safety, and control *devices* can be made globally (everywhere) in millimeters, but can still be different in configuration to meet differing local (i.e. national) requirements. e.g. Driver Controls on the right side or on the left side? Even after the USA becomes entirely SI in aerospace engineering as well as in automotive engineering, the probability is that there will still be different requirements for signal, safety, and control devices. Eugene Mechtly ________________________________ From: Martin Vlietstra [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:13 AM To: mechtly, eugene a; 'U.S. Metric Association' Subject: RE: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938 The point that I was making is that if the US industry does not accept compatibility with OIML standards, it might well find itself having to run two production lines – one for the export market and one for the local market. In contrast, European manufacturers need only run one production line, allowing small details like the face plate to be customer-specifi9c. From: mechtly, eugene a [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 14 February 2014 16:08 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; U.S. Metric Association Cc: mechtly, eugene a Subject: RE: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938 Martin (Vlietstra) and Eward B. The OIML Standard which Martin sent, specifies *only* the units "gramme", "Kilogramme", or "tonne" for mass, "Celsius", etc., i.e. only units from the SI, with Oxford-English spellings, and accepts *no* units from outside the SI!!! On the other hand, SI-10, the ASTM standard, allows "duality", i.e. permits units from outside the SI, sadly. Unless, the latest edition of SI-10, which I have declined to purchase, deletes units from outside the SI? In the sense of being exclusively SI, they are *not* compatible. Eugene Mechtly ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]] on behalf of Martin Vlietstra [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:45 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938 Are the ASTM standards and the OIML standards compatible? The OIML standards can be found at http://www.oiml.org/en/files/pdf_r/r105-e93.pdf. The OIML is the International Organisation for Legal Metrology. It works closely in conjunction with the CGPM and both are located in Paris. The OIML’s mandate is to publish recommended standards to ensure that a measurement which is legal in one country is also legal in another. For example, if a British manufacturer, a French manufacturer and an American manufacturer were all tendering to supply petrol [gasoline] pumps to a customer in another country, the customer could, in his specification, require that tehr pumps meet OIML specification R105 (See above) and this would cover all the testing requirements. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edward Schlesinger Sent: 14 February 2014 05:39 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:53555] Hawaii State HB 1938 HB 1938 Relating to measurement standards is now being considered for petroleum products, in which "The current standards as published by the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) and the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE)" are to be adopted. Meanwhile HB 36 RELATING TO THE METRIC SYSTEM seems to be stalled in december although carried over to regular session 2014. -- Sincerely, Edward B.
